If PC Week and Spencer F. Katt can do it,
why can't I? The purpose of this page is to inform everyone of the latest
scoop that I find in the media, newsgroups, and other discussion forums that I constantly
monitor. The information heard on the street are comments made by others that I have not
verified. They may be true or false. I will also throw in my personal and other
speculative opinions every now and then. This is the only page on this site where I will
post information that has not be verified by another party.
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Please Note: Because the following
information is often based on personal speculation, rumors, and unsubstantiated comments
from others, please do not consider it to be the absolute truth. |
October
10/15/97 - The Cyrix/IBM 6x86L processors are on
their way out for good. Authorized distributors are having a very difficult time getting
any of these CPUs. Cyrix/IBM stopped producing wafers in January and the supply has
finally dried up. If you want one, you better get it now.
August
8/21/97 - Cyrix hit the road this summer. They have
been putting on summer reseller seminars around the country. I received some information
from a friend who recently attended one. Here are a few tidbits from the seminar for you.
The new 6x86MX PR200 processors have hit the street and are marked
150MHz (2 x 75MHz). At the show a technician said that they have some PR200 166MHz (2.5 x
66MHz) parts, but they are special order and will probably cost more. The upcoming PR266
will initially be a 208MHz (2.5 x 83MHz) part until they get the yields up and then they
will move to 225MHz (3 x 75MHz). Cyrix will have a PR300 by year end or early 1998. They
haven't decided on a bus speed yet.
The PR233 and up will continue to be 2.9V. Cyrix is looking at
producing some 6x86MX parts to run at 2.1V for notebooks.
National Semiconductor fabs will be used to produce the MediaGX
chips, while the IBM agreement will stay in place for the 6x86MX. By September the 6x86
will be an endangered species. In fact, they stopped producing 6x86 wafers in January.
The hint is that ALi has a chipset that officially supports 83MHz
(ALi is ACER). This is who Cyrix is looking at right now to support their PR266, but VIA
may have their 100MHz chipset available by then.
July
7/22/97 - I have been informed that Cyrix/IBM are
going to make changes to their Performance Rating system for the 6x86MX because of
inadequate 6x86MX manufacturing yields and frequencies.
Here is how the new temporary PR rating is suppose to look:
| Bus Speed |
Internal Clock Speed |
PR rating |
| 66MHz |
133MHz |
PR166 |
| 75MHz |
150MHz |
PR200 |
| 66MHz |
200MHz |
PR233 |
Cyrix website no longer talks about clock rate or
multipliers. Obviously, they are trying to slide the changes in unnoticed! It looks like
the rumors are true.
The reason for this change is that Cyrix/IBM can't satisfy the
demand for the 6x86MX PR200 chips because they are not able to produce enough parts that
can run at 166MHz and above. Cyrix/IBM can better meet the demand if they sell a 150MHz
instead of a 166MHz part as a PR200. Cyrix/IBM can and benchmarks prove that they can get
PR200 performance from a 6x86MX by clock doubling the 75MHz bus. Personally, I wouldn't
even think about seeing a 6x86MX PR233 on the street until late Q3. Please note that this
will be a temporary change in the PR rating and Cyrix/IBM will move back to the original
model as time progresses and yields improve.
Cyrix/IBM aren't going to hide this new fact, but they aren't going
to broadcast it either. This will make the PR rating more confusing than ever (if that is
possible), but it has saved their rear-end in the short term. Like the PR233, there will
eventually be two different versions of the 6x86MX PR166 and 6x86MX PR200. For example,
there will be a 6x86MX PR200 (66 x 2.5) and 6x86MX PR200 (75 x 2).
7/02/97 - Cyrix/IBM do have a
small amount of 6x86 parts that yield 83MHz. Someone came to them and said that their
chipset was designed to run at 83Mhz and that they were building a motherboard to support
it. As a result, don't be surprised if in a couple months you see a fairly well known
company with a killer 83/166 6x86 budget system.
June
6/21/97 - Cyrix/IBM are investigating using 6x86
(not 6x86MX) in mobile solutions. Cyrix/IBM can sort the 6x86 to meet Intel mobile voltage
specs, but there has to be enough interest from mobile motherboard providers in order for
them to do this.
6/19/97 - The next generation of Cyrix processor is
codenamed the M3 and will be socket-7 compatible. Intel has stated that the TX chipset
will be the last Intel chipset to feature socket-7 support. This is an effort by Intel to
migrate the masses to the Pentium II and Slot I architecture where they will be offering
the latest and greatest chipset technologies. Cyrix has no future plans to get into the
chipset business. Lets all hope that AMD, VIA, SIS, and others pick up Intel's slack and
keep the socket-7 a viable option for years to come.
March
3/22/97 - The threat of the AMD K6 looms large and
it is going to be released approximately 2 months before the M2. Cyrix and IBM run the
risk of losing their hard-earned reputation as the superior alternative CPU to the Pentium
in terms of performance in the interim. As a result, the M2 partners are looking at any
possible way to accelerate production availability. Don't be surprised if it is released
before June.
3/03/97 - Cyrix will never release a software patch
to remedy the pre-revision 2.7 6x86 and Windows NT 4.0 performance issue. Did anyone
really expect that they would?
February
2/18/97 - Cyrix and IBM plan to release a 6x86
166MHz (clocked-doubled 83MHz) before the end of the year.
January
1/27/97 - This one is a jewel. I never cease to be
amazed how these morsels magically end up in my mailbox. When the clock strikes 5:00 P.M
and people start calling it a day, Ive heard that the guys at Cyrix like to wind
down by playing some hard core network Quake. I find that pretty ironic considering the
Quake players bash Cyrix like no other. Maybe some of the engineers play every now and
then and realize that they need to beef up the FPU on the M2.
1/20/97 - The revision 3.7 and above P166+ and
P200+ cpus are made from same advanced silicon process. The revision 3.7 and above P166+
overclocks to P200+ quite well. Here is why. Cyrix tests the cpus in a wide temperature
range. They have been having problems with the P200+ failing in extreme temperature ranges
and thus mark them as a P166+ since its passes the temperature tests at that speed. Since
most of us do not run our systems in extreme temperature environments, the revision 3.7
and above P166+ series seem to have a high overclocking success rate.
1/17/97 - The M2 core voltage requirement may be
changed from 2.5V to 2.8V to match the 2.8V Pentium MMX. This will allow an easy upgrade
for anyone who wants to upgrade a Pentium MMX to a Cyrix M2.
1/10/97 - I received a very interesting email
today. An individual that I trust was privy to some correspondence which describes the
differences between the Cyrix 6x86 chip revisions that Cyrix will not disclose. He was
gracious enough to forward it to me. I decided to put this information on this page rather
than the 6x86 FAQ because he asked that I keep the anonymity of the real source. As a
result, I could not verify the information with the source myself.
2.4 -> 2.5
Cyrix found a problem in the L2 cache control signal which caused certain motherboards to
be unstable. They changed the electrical signal to cope with this problem.
2.5 -> 2.6 and also 2.6 -> 2.7
Inorder to yield more P166+ and P200+ cpus, Cyrix improved the flow of electricity between
the layers and modified the location of some units.
2.7 -> 3.7
Cyrix changed the manufacturing process.
3.7 -> 3.71
Inorder to yield more P200+ cpus, Cyrix improved the flow of electricity between the
layers.
1/9/97 - Although the M2 partnership with Evergreen
was once the real thing, with Jerry Rogers (Ex-CEO) gone and a new management team in
place, Cyrix has decided to cancel the $199 M2 upgrade deal.
Has anyone else noticed that the Future's Built In demo and the
majority of graphics related to the Future's Built In program have quietly been removed
from the Cyrix website. The Future's Built In logo, which was prominently displayed on the
majority of Cyrix web pages, is also gone. I wonder if this means that Cyrix is starting
to back away from their promise that the future's built in. |