By: Brett (ggtgp.delete@this.yahoo.com), January 11, 2011 9:41 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
David Kanter (dkanter@realworldtech.com) on 1/11/11 wrote:
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>>My numbers of 65% market share is for two socket servers and above if I remember correct.
>>Single socket servers numbers are not worth the paper they are printed on.
>>
>>For four socket servers and above AMD has ~100% market share.
>>Intel just introduced a four socket board after having abandoned the market for
>>the past few years, so maybe Intel has non-zero numbers now.
>>
>
>Sources please : ) Those numbers sound like utter bullshit. I know for a fact
>that IBM dominates the 8S+ market, and they are pretty much a Xeon only company.
>That means that AMD could not have had 100% market share.
>
>I know that AMD had >50% of the 4S+ market at one point (prior to Tigerton and
>Nehalem), but I doubt they had >50% of the 2S market. Their marketshare has steeply
>declined to well under 50% for the 4S market with the introduction of Dunnington
>and Nehalem-EX though (especially the latter).
Reading the AMD Q2 conference call AMD claims a past historical peak of 26% of the total server market. With higher market shares as the socket count goes up.
IBM was the only company selling 4 socket Intel servers, as IBM developed a chip for the purpose, a VERY expensive chip. Being sold against AMDs glueless (free) 4 and 8 socket designs. I have never seen market share numbers for this machine and assumed it was negligible on a unit basis. On a dollar basis combined with raid arrays and software, IBM "server" sales are huge, but only a tiny part of that would be CPUs. IBM has bundled 4 socket POWER sales and printed combined numbers, but I do not not have even those. And again that would be total system dollar sales and impossible to figure out what part was CPUs.
I would love to have real 2 socket and 4 socket unit or dollar share numbers for any years.
I am even willing to take IDC or Gartner numbers, as flawed as those can be.
A quick google has HP and IBM arguing about who is bigger and who is growing in servers, both claim #1 and stealing market share from the other, both quote the other as lying and they giving the truth. ;)
I put a tilde on my ~100% AMD market share for 4 socket servers for a reason, the IBM unknown.
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>>My numbers of 65% market share is for two socket servers and above if I remember correct.
>>Single socket servers numbers are not worth the paper they are printed on.
>>
>>For four socket servers and above AMD has ~100% market share.
>>Intel just introduced a four socket board after having abandoned the market for
>>the past few years, so maybe Intel has non-zero numbers now.
>>
>
>Sources please : ) Those numbers sound like utter bullshit. I know for a fact
>that IBM dominates the 8S+ market, and they are pretty much a Xeon only company.
>That means that AMD could not have had 100% market share.
>
>I know that AMD had >50% of the 4S+ market at one point (prior to Tigerton and
>Nehalem), but I doubt they had >50% of the 2S market. Their marketshare has steeply
>declined to well under 50% for the 4S market with the introduction of Dunnington
>and Nehalem-EX though (especially the latter).
Reading the AMD Q2 conference call AMD claims a past historical peak of 26% of the total server market. With higher market shares as the socket count goes up.
IBM was the only company selling 4 socket Intel servers, as IBM developed a chip for the purpose, a VERY expensive chip. Being sold against AMDs glueless (free) 4 and 8 socket designs. I have never seen market share numbers for this machine and assumed it was negligible on a unit basis. On a dollar basis combined with raid arrays and software, IBM "server" sales are huge, but only a tiny part of that would be CPUs. IBM has bundled 4 socket POWER sales and printed combined numbers, but I do not not have even those. And again that would be total system dollar sales and impossible to figure out what part was CPUs.
I would love to have real 2 socket and 4 socket unit or dollar share numbers for any years.
I am even willing to take IDC or Gartner numbers, as flawed as those can be.
A quick google has HP and IBM arguing about who is bigger and who is growing in servers, both claim #1 and stealing market share from the other, both quote the other as lying and they giving the truth. ;)
I put a tilde on my ~100% AMD market share for 4 socket servers for a reason, the IBM unknown.
