By: HiTEK (noone.delete@this.home.com), January 16, 2011 11:12 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Antti-Ville Tuunainen (avtuunainen@gmail.com) on 1/16/11 wrote:
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>HiTEK (noone@home.com) on 1/16/11 wrote:
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>>You are comparing a 45nm intel CPU with a 32nm Bulldozer? You should be comparing
>>it to the Gulftown. Then it's apples to apples except that Gulftown is old by now.
>>If Sandy Bridge is 25% faster core by core, then Sandy Bridge EP will give the Bulldozer
>>a run for it's money, with no cheating involved. But you will never believe that.
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>And you are comparing two very differently sized cores -- 4-module (8-core) BD
>is comparable in size to SNB, and SNB-E will likely be considerably bigger.
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>Of course, this doesn't actually matter. The reason Intel is the top dog is that
>they can afford to spend more transistors.
Well according to AMD then Intel is selling their chips way to cheap, yet they are far too expensive ;-)
Perhaps you know more than I do about Zambezi? My information is, that the die size is comparable to Gulftown and neither have an integrated GPU like SNB. But then again Zambezi has AVX and FMAC, but Gulftown has more cache? ...
Still i welcome competition and maybe now Intel will start to mass produce Gulftown class CPU's? Instead of allocating most of the 32nm production capacity to notebook and server chips.
But maybe thats why Dirk Meyer was canned? Selling the BIG 6 core Thuban at cut-throat prices in the less lucrative Gamer segment probably isn't economically sound?
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>HiTEK (noone@home.com) on 1/16/11 wrote:
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>>You are comparing a 45nm intel CPU with a 32nm Bulldozer? You should be comparing
>>it to the Gulftown. Then it's apples to apples except that Gulftown is old by now.
>>If Sandy Bridge is 25% faster core by core, then Sandy Bridge EP will give the Bulldozer
>>a run for it's money, with no cheating involved. But you will never believe that.
>
>And you are comparing two very differently sized cores -- 4-module (8-core) BD
>is comparable in size to SNB, and SNB-E will likely be considerably bigger.
>
>Of course, this doesn't actually matter. The reason Intel is the top dog is that
>they can afford to spend more transistors.
Well according to AMD then Intel is selling their chips way to cheap, yet they are far too expensive ;-)
Perhaps you know more than I do about Zambezi? My information is, that the die size is comparable to Gulftown and neither have an integrated GPU like SNB. But then again Zambezi has AVX and FMAC, but Gulftown has more cache? ...
Still i welcome competition and maybe now Intel will start to mass produce Gulftown class CPU's? Instead of allocating most of the 32nm production capacity to notebook and server chips.
But maybe thats why Dirk Meyer was canned? Selling the BIG 6 core Thuban at cut-throat prices in the less lucrative Gamer segment probably isn't economically sound?
