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By: someone (someone.delete@this.somewhere.com), September 28, 2011 6:54 am

Phil (phil@phil.com) on 9/28/11 wrote:
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>Its funny how when IBM shows a significantly higher benchmark result, like on SPEC
>CPU2006 or even SAP SD 2-Tier, certain folks here say *wow*, this is an amazing
>CPU and dont even question the fact that maybe IBM has cracked the benchmark, yet
>here, SPARC T4 does incredibly well on TPC-H, an independently audited benchmark,
>much more real world benchmark (than spec cpu will ever be), and where IBM and HP
>have recently published results so therefore Oracle must have cracked the benchmark?

When some species is observed rolling in the mud, waddling
around out oinking and eating slop for twenty years a single
report of said species flying over the barnyard will be regarded
with scepticism by sensible observers.

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On the UltraSPARC T4	DaveC	09/27/11 02:22 PM
On the UltraSPARC T4	Gabriele Svelto	09/27/11 03:28 PM
On the UltraSPARC T4	DaveC	09/27/11 03:59 PM
TPC-H benchmark result	Michael S	09/27/11 03:44 PM
TPC-H benchmark result	Jesper Frimann	09/28/11 01:43 AM
TPC-H benchmark result	Michael S	09/28/11 02:39 AM
TPC-H benchmark result	Jesper Frimann	09/28/11 03:49 AM
TPC-H benchmark result	Gabriele Svelto	09/28/11 09:44 AM
TPC-H benchmark result	Phil	09/28/11 05:56 AM
TPC-H benchmark result	Michael S	09/28/11 06:23 AM
TPC-H benchmark result	someone	09/28/11 06:54 AM
TPC-H benchmark result	Jesper Frimann	09/28/11 07:39 AM
cracking benchmarks	anon	09/28/11 02:10 PM
cracking benchmarks	Jesper Frimann	09/28/11 09:39 PM
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TPC-H benchmark result	someone	09/28/11 06:50 AM
TPC-H benchmark result	Michael S	09/28/11 07:11 AM
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TPC-H benchmark result - the high priced spread-SPARC T4 still comes out ahead!	Jesper Frimann	09/29/11 01:49 AM
TPC-H benchmark result - the high priced spread-SPARC T4 still comes out ahead!	Phil	09/29/11 02:13 AM
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TPC-H benchmark result	AC	10/10/11 01:11 AM
TPC-H benchmark result	Jesper Frimann	10/10/11 02:24 AM
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On the UltraSPARC T4	Thu Nguyen	09/27/11 04:40 PM
On the UltraSPARC T4	Brett	09/27/11 08:21 PM
On the UltraSPARC T4	David Kanter	09/27/11 08:33 PM
On the UltraSPARC T4	anon	09/27/11 08:56 PM
TERA MTA	Mark Roulo	09/28/11 08:36 AM
TERA MTA	anon	09/28/11 03:11 PM
TERA MTA	Michael S	09/29/11 12:58 PM
TERA MTA	anon	09/29/11 01:46 PM
TERA MTA	Brett	09/29/11 02:33 PM
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TERA MTA	mpx	09/30/11 05:33 AM
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On the UltraSPARC T4	Phil	09/28/11 12:23 AM
On the UltraSPARC T4	David Kanter	09/28/11 12:57 AM
On the UltraSPARC T4	Gabriele Svelto	09/28/11 09:22 AM
Database clustering	David Kanter	09/28/11 04:55 PM
Database clustering	Phil	09/29/11 12:15 AM
Database clustering	David Kanter	09/29/11 09:12 AM
Database clustering	Alex Fatkulin	09/29/11 11:14 AM
Database clustering	David Kanter	09/29/11 09:11 PM
Database clustering	Anon	09/30/11 12:32 AM
Database clustering	David Kanter	09/30/11 01:23 AM
Database clustering	mpx	10/05/11 01:12 AM
Database clustering	Jesper Frimann	09/30/11 02:14 AM
Database clustering	Anon	09/30/11 10:14 PM
Database clustering	Jesper Frimann	10/01/11 04:24 AM
Database clustering	Anon	10/01/11 05:27 PM
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Database clustering	anon	10/03/11 08:55 AM
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Database clustering	Jesper Frimann	10/03/11 02:24 PM
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Database clustering	anon	10/03/11 04:04 PM
Database clustering	Jesper Frimann	10/04/11 02:42 AM
Database clustering	anon	10/04/11 08:13 AM
Database clustering	EduardoS	10/04/11 08:29 AM
Database clustering	anon	10/04/11 08:45 AM
Database clustering	bakaneko	10/04/11 09:11 AM
Database clustering	Gabriele Svelto	10/04/11 10:39 AM
Database clustering	anon	10/04/11 10:51 AM
Database clustering	Gabriele Svelto	10/04/11 01:27 PM
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Database clustering	mpx	10/01/11 04:40 AM
Database clustering	Alex Fatkulin	09/30/11 05:42 AM
Database clustering	Jesper Frimann	09/30/11 06:19 AM
Database clustering	Alex Fatkulin	09/30/11 06:33 AM
Database clustering	Jesper Frimann	09/30/11 08:44 AM
Database clustering	Alex Fatkulin	09/30/11 09:01 AM
Database clustering	Jesper Frimann	09/30/11 09:55 AM
Database clustering	Alex Fatkulin	09/30/11 10:07 AM
Database clustering	Jesper Frimann	09/30/11 11:11 AM
Database clustering	Alex Fatkulin	09/30/11 11:33 AM
Database clustering	Jesper Frimann	09/30/11 03:00 PM
Database clustering	anon	10/01/11 09:18 AM
Database clustering	Michael S	10/01/11 10:33 AM
Database clustering	Jesper Frimann	10/01/11 10:22 PM
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Database clustering	EduardoS	09/30/11 02:13 PM
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Database clustering	mpx	09/30/11 10:39 AM
Database clustering	EduardoS	09/30/11 02:07 PM
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Database clustering	mpx	10/05/11 01:02 AM
Database clustering	Jesper Frimann	10/01/11 01:32 AM
Database clustering	mpx	09/30/11 12:20 AM
Database clustering	EduardoS	09/30/11 02:09 PM
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Flash vs. disk on SPECjEnterprise2010?	Gabriele Svelto	09/27/11 10:23 PM
Flash vs. disk on SPECjEnterprise2010?	Jesper Frimann	09/28/11 12:04 AM
Flash vs. disk on SPECjEnterprise2010?	Phil	09/28/11 12:32 AM
Are you trolling?	David Kanter	09/28/11 01:07 AM
memory bandwidth clarification etc..	Michael S	09/28/11 02:23 AM
memory bandwidth clarification etc..	Jesper Frimann	09/28/11 04:13 AM
memory bandwidth clarification etc..	Phil	09/28/11 06:06 AM
memory bandwidth clarification etc..	Jesper Frimann	09/28/11 09:25 AM
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There is one (another one)...	Michael S	09/28/11 03:59 AM
Are you trolling? Yes, trolling for substantiation!!	Phil	09/28/11 05:47 AM
Are you trolling? Yes, trolling for substantiation!!	Jesper Frimann	09/28/11 11:01 AM
Are you trolling? Yes, trolling for substantiation!!	Phil	09/29/11 12:26 AM
Are you trolling? Yes, trolling for substantiation!!	Jesper Frimann	09/29/11 02:27 AM
Are you trolling? Yes, trolling for substantiation!!	Phil	09/29/11 04:46 AM
Are you trolling? Yes, trolling for substantiation!!	David Kanter	09/28/11 05:15 PM
Are you trolling? Yes, trolling for substantiation!!	Phil	09/29/11 12:53 AM
Are you trolling? Yes, trolling for substantiation!!	Jesper Frimann	09/29/11 07:43 AM
Pricing	David Kanter	09/28/11 05:28 PM
Pricing	Jesper Frimann	09/28/11 09:56 PM
Pricing	Michael S	09/29/11 01:42 PM
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T4 better at cryptographic workloads?	Gabriele Svelto	09/28/11 09:36 AM
T4 better at cryptographic workloads?	Jesper Frimann	09/28/11 11:10 AM
T4 better at cryptographic workloads?	Gabriele Svelto	09/28/11 12:56 PM
T4 better at cryptographic workloads?	Max	09/29/11 06:53 AM
Instruction- vs. coprocessor-based extensions	Paul A. Clayton	09/28/11 04:48 PM
Memory versioning?	anon	10/02/11 08:48 PM
Memory versioning?	David Kanter	10/02/11 09:31 PM
Memory versioning--not just for TM?	Paul A. Clayton	10/09/11 02:37 PM
Memory versioning--not just for TM?	Gabriele Svelto	10/09/11 10:11 PM
Memory versioning--not just for TM?	David Kanter	10/11/11 03:15 PM
Point well taken	David Kanter	09/28/11 05:18 PM
T4 better at cryptographic workloads?	EduardoS	09/28/11 05:36 PM
Are you trolling?	Gabriele Svelto	09/28/11 09:49 AM
An addendum on I/O	David Kanter	09/28/11 11:29 AM
An addendum on I/O	Phil	01/27/12 08:19 AM
An addendum on I/O	anon	01/27/12 11:04 AM
An addendum on I/O	David Kanter	01/27/12 03:47 PM
An addendum on I/O	Kira	01/27/12 04:23 PM
Meant POWER7 (NT)	David Kanter	01/27/12 06:55 PM
An addendum on I/O	Jesper Frimann	01/29/12 07:58 AM
Are you trolling?	anon	09/28/11 01:03 PM
Flash vs. disk on SPECjEnterprise2010?	mpx	09/29/11 01:05 AM
Well done!	David Kanter	09/27/11 07:10 PM
Well done!	Gabriele Svelto	09/27/11 10:39 PM
On the UltraSPARC T4	mpx	09/29/11 12:56 AM
How much memory it supports?	EduardoS	10/11/11 01:37 AM
How much memory it supports?	Michael S	10/11/11 04:14 AM
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Big power miss on T4?	Gabriele Svelto	07/17/12 11:26 PM
Big power miss on T4?	David Kanter	07/19/12 04:04 PM
Big power miss on T4?	Kira	07/19/12 05:44 PM
Big power miss on T4?	EduardoS	07/19/12 06:19 PM
Big power miss on T4?	Kira	07/19/12 09:37 PM
Big power miss on T4?	David Kanter	07/19/12 10:15 PM
T4->T5	blaine	07/21/12 08:39 AM
Big power miss on T4?	EduardoS	07/20/12 08:18 AM
Big power miss on T4?	mpx	07/20/12 01:26 AM
Big power miss on T4?	EduardoS	07/20/12 08:26 AM
Big power miss on T4?	Gabriele Svelto	07/21/12 12:38 AM

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Body:	No Text someone (someone.delete@this.somewhere.com) on September 28, 2011 6:54 am wrote: > Phil (phil@phil.com) on 9/28/11 wrote: > --------------------------- > >Its funny how when IBM shows a significantly higher benchmark result, like on SPEC > >CPU2006 or even SAP SD 2-Tier, certain folks here say wow, this is an amazing > >CPU and dont even question the fact that maybe IBM has cracked the benchmark, yet > >here, SPARC T4 does incredibly well on TPC-H, an independently audited benchmark, > >much more real world benchmark (than spec cpu will ever be), and where IBM and HP > >have recently published results so therefore Oracle must have cracked the benchmark? > > When some species is observed rolling in the mud, waddling > around out oinking and eating slop for twenty years a single > report of said species flying over the barnyard will be regarded > with scepticism by sensible observers.
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