Bulldozer's Oddities.

By: Y (blah.delete@this.halb.bh), April 25, 2012 4:34 am
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EduardoS (no@spam.com) on 4/23/12 wrote:
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>Neither have more information than an old public slide, the first step comes with
>Piledriver stated as 10-15% improvement, and those 10-15% improvement we know will come from:
>- Higher clock due to process maturity and clock mesh;
>- Double L2 write bandwidth;
>- Lower forwarding latency;
>- Slightly bigger instruction window (I'm not sure, IIRC it is just for the FPU scheduller);
>- Other small (or smaller...) changes to the core.
>
>In the Steamroller node there is the same "10-15%" text with a "greater parallelism",
>take your own conclusions to what this does means.
>
Plus it seems the planet3dnow site has recently discovered the integer DIV unit which is present but disabled for BD is enabled in the PD core. This conclusion was based on a leaked Piledriver/Trinity benchmark and AMD's sw. opt. guides for 15h and 10h/12h families.

The article is written in German so excuse me if I got it all wrong.

Link: http://www.planet3dnow.de/cgi-bin/newspub/viewnews.cgi?category=1&id=1334532731
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                              Bulldozer's IDIVHeikki Kultala04/27/12 10:56 PM
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              Clustered MT as SMT for high frequencyPaul A. Clayton04/20/12 04:10 PM
                Clustered MT as SMT for high frequencyhcl6404/28/12 12:56 AM
                  Clustered MT as SMT for high frequencyanonymous04/28/12 01:43 AM
                    Clustered MT as SMT for high frequencyhcl6404/28/12 02:59 PM
                      Clustered MT as SMT for high frequencyanonymous04/28/12 08:45 PM
                  Clustered MT as SMT for high frequencyanon04/28/12 02:13 AM
                    Clustered MT as SMT for high frequencyhcl6404/28/12 03:23 PM
                      Clustered MT as SMT for high frequencyanon04/28/12 06:19 PM
                        Clustered MT as SMT for high frequencyhcl6404/28/12 07:58 PM
                  Clustered MT as SMT for high frequencyDavid Kanter04/28/12 06:38 AM
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                      Guessed meaning of "strong dependency model"EduardoS04/28/12 09:46 AM
                        *Right meaning* about "strong dependency model"hcl6404/28/12 04:59 PM
                    Clustered MT as SMT for high frequencyhcl6404/28/12 04:24 PM
                      Clustered MT as SMT for high frequencyanonymous04/28/12 08:50 PM
                        Clustered MT as SMT for high frequencyhcl6404/28/12 09:47 PM
                          SNB widthDavid Kanter04/28/12 09:48 PM
                            SNB widthhcl6404/29/12 02:24 AM
                      Clustered MT as SMT for high frequencyDavid Kanter04/28/12 09:56 PM
                        Clustered MT as SMT for high frequencyhcl6404/28/12 11:44 PM
                          SOI, FD vs. PDDavid Kanter04/29/12 07:19 AM
                            SOI, FD vs. PDhcl6404/29/12 05:31 PM
                              SOI, FD vs. PDDavid Kanter04/29/12 11:26 PM
                                SOI, FD vs. PDhcl6404/30/12 08:08 AM
                                  SOI, FD vs. PDDavid Kanter04/30/12 09:59 AM
                                    SOI, FD vs. PDhcl6404/30/12 06:10 PM
                                      SOI, FD vs. PDDavid Kanter04/30/12 06:32 PM
                                        SOI, FD vs. PDhcl6404/30/12 10:47 PM
                                          SOI, FD vs. PDDavid Kanter05/01/12 02:24 AM
                                            SOI, FD vs. PDhcl6405/01/12 05:46 AM
                                            SOI, FD vs. PDhcl6405/01/12 06:37 AM
                                              SOI, FD vs. PDDavid Kanter05/01/12 08:19 AM
                                          SOI, FD vs. PDhcl6405/01/12 07:39 AM
                                            PD-SOIDavid Kanter05/02/12 12:22 PM
                                    SOI, FD vs. PDslacker04/30/12 08:10 PM
                                      SOI, FD vs. PDDavid Kanter04/30/12 10:16 PM
                                        SOI, FD vs. PDslacker05/01/12 10:04 PM
                                          SOI, FD vs. PDDavid Kanter05/02/12 08:19 AM
                                            SOI, FD vs. PDzou05/02/12 12:23 PM
                  Previous discussion of clustered MTPaul A. Clayton04/28/12 07:00 AM
                    Previous discussion of clustered MThcl6404/28/12 09:38 PM
                      Previous discussion of clustered MTDavid Kanter04/30/12 04:37 PM
                        Previous discussion of clustered MThcl6404/30/12 07:24 PM
                          Previous discussion of clustered MTDavid Kanter04/30/12 07:40 PM
                            Previous discussion of clustered MThcl6405/01/12 09:15 AM
                              Latency issuesDavid Kanter05/02/12 12:01 PM
              So, what do people think of these numbers>Megol04/21/12 01:57 AM
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