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By: EduardoS (no.delete@this.spam.com), November 17, 2012 4:52 pm

name99 (name99.delete@this.redheron.com) on November 17, 2012 3:40 pm wrote:
> Meaning is: you have one partner that REALLY wants to ditch 32-bit ASAP, and other partners
> that want to keep it for a long time. It makes no sense for ARM to privilege one of these
> over the other. (And they will undoubtedly benefit from the halo if Apple CAN use ditching
> 32-bit to make a chip that's substantially faster, and makes ARM as a whole look good.)

Apple have part of ARM, doesn't it?

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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	anon	08/14/12 02:37 AM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	none	08/14/12 04:44 AM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	anon	08/14/12 05:28 AM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	anon	08/14/12 05:32 AM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	none	08/14/12 05:40 AM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	none	08/14/12 06:25 AM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	anon	08/14/12 06:54 AM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	none	08/14/12 07:04 AM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	anon	08/14/12 07:43 AM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	EduardoS	08/14/12 06:07 AM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	anon	08/14/12 06:20 AM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	none	08/14/12 06:29 AM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	anon	08/14/12 07:00 AM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	mpx	08/14/12 08:59 AM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	anonymou5	08/14/12 11:03 AM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	name99	11/17/12 03:31 PM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	bakaneko	08/14/12 04:21 AM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	Wilco	11/19/12 07:59 AM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	EduardoS	11/19/12 08:23 AM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	Wilco	11/19/12 09:31 AM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	EduardoS	11/19/12 11:41 AM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	Wilco	11/21/12 07:44 AM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	EBFE	11/26/12 01:24 AM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	EBFE	11/27/12 11:17 PM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	Gabriele Svelto	11/28/12 02:32 AM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	EBFE	11/28/12 12:33 AM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	Michael S	11/28/12 09:16 AM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	EduardoS	11/28/12 09:53 AM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	David Kanter	11/21/12 10:12 AM
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A JIT example	Wilco	11/23/12 01:41 PM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	jigal	08/15/12 01:49 PM
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Number of GPRs	Kenneth Jonsson	08/17/12 02:41 AM
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Brute force seems to work	bakaneko	08/17/12 11:15 AM
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Pointer compression is atypical	Richard Cownie	08/17/12 12:57 PM
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Pointer compression is atypical	Howard Chu	08/23/12 06:51 AM
Pointer compression is atypical	Wilco	08/17/12 02:41 PM
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Pointer compression is atypical	Ricardo B	08/19/12 10:44 AM
Pointer compression is atypical	Howard Chu	08/22/12 10:08 PM
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Pointer compression is atypical	Richard Cownie	08/23/12 08:44 AM
Pointer compression is atypical	Howard Chu	08/23/12 05:17 PM
Pointer compression is atypical	anon	08/23/12 08:15 PM
Pointer compression is atypical	Howard Chu	08/23/12 09:33 PM
64-bit pointers eat some performance	Foo_	08/18/12 12:09 PM
64-bit pointers eat some performance	Richard Cownie	08/18/12 05:25 PM
64-bit pointers eat some performance	Richard Cownie	08/18/12 05:32 PM
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Number of GPRs	Wilco	08/17/12 06:31 AM
Number of GPRs	Kenneth Jonsson	08/17/12 11:54 AM
Number of GPRs	Exophase	08/17/12 12:44 PM
Number of GPRs	Kenneth Jonsson	08/17/12 01:22 PM
Number of GPRs	Wilco	08/17/12 02:53 PM
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Compiler vs. assembly aliasing knowledge?	Exophase	08/17/12 11:09 AM
Compiler vs. assembly aliasing knowledge?	anon	08/18/12 02:23 AM
Compiler vs. assembly aliasing knowledge?	Ricardo B	08/19/12 11:02 AM
Compiler vs. assembly aliasing knowledge?	anon	08/19/12 06:07 PM
Compiler vs. assembly aliasing knowledge?	Ricardo B	08/19/12 07:26 PM
Compiler vs. assembly aliasing knowledge?	anon	08/19/12 10:03 PM
Compiler vs. assembly aliasing knowledge?	anon	08/20/12 01:59 AM
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Number of GPRs	name99	11/17/12 06:37 PM
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Number of GPRs	Richard Cownie	08/16/12 05:17 PM
32 GPRs ~2-3%	Paul A. Clayton	08/16/12 06:27 PM
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32 GPRs ~2-3%	Exophase	08/16/12 10:06 PM
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32 GPRs ~2-3%	rwessel	08/17/12 08:24 AM
32 GPRs ~2-3%	Exophase	08/17/12 09:16 AM
32 GPRs ~2-3%	Max	08/17/12 04:19 PM
32 GPRs ~2-3%	name99	11/17/12 07:43 PM
Number of GPRs	mpx	08/17/12 01:11 AM
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Number of GPRs	bakaneko	08/17/12 03:09 AM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	David Kanter	08/19/12 12:42 PM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	Doug S	08/19/12 02:02 PM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	Anon	08/19/12 07:16 PM
New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	Steve	08/30/12 07:51 AM
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New Article: ARM Goes 64-bit	Reinoud Zandijk	08/21/12 11:27 PM

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Body:	No Text EduardoS (no.delete@this.spam.com) on November 17, 2012 4:52 pm wrote: > name99 (name99.delete@this.redheron.com) on November 17, 2012 3:40 pm wrote: > > Meaning is: you have one partner that REALLY wants to ditch 32-bit ASAP, and other partners > > that want to keep it for a long time. It makes no sense for ARM to privilege one of these > > over the other. (And they will undoubtedly benefit from the halo if Apple CAN use ditching > > 32-bit to make a chip that's substantially faster, and makes ARM as a whole look good.) > > Apple have part of ARM, doesn't it?
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