Article: Haswell TM Alternatives

Article: Haswell Transactional Memory Alternatives
By: bakaneko (nyan.delete@this.hyan.wan), August 22, 2012 9:56 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions

David Kanter (dkanter.delete@this.realworldtech.com) on August 22, 2012 3:45 pm wrote:
> Suppose you had a TX that required simultaneously
> accessing 5 variables that map to the same set. In a scheme that just used a
> 4-way L1, it would always fail. OTOH, the same TX would be able to succeed on a
> MOB-based implementation.

Thanks, now I get it. We look at TX very differently.

You think about how to eliminate the limits in hardware, I
care about how to use it in software under the guarantees
given. (And that leaves me with 1 cacheline and no nesting.)

It was hard to understand what you wanted to show in your
article. The introduction didn't mention the MOB as goal or
vs. a cache based implementation at all and I didn't see
your view ("We want bigger transactions because... 70 writes
is ideal").
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Article: Haswell TM AlternativesDavid Kanter08/21/12 09:17 PM
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  Article: Haswell TM Alternativesanon08/22/12 08:46 AM
    Article: Haswell TM AlternativesLinus Torvalds08/22/12 09:16 AM
      Article: Haswell TM AlternativesDoug S08/24/12 08:34 AM
    AMD's ASF even more limitedPaul A. Clayton08/22/12 09:20 AM
      AMD's ASF even more limitedLinus Torvalds08/22/12 09:41 AM
        Compiler use of ll/sc?Paul A. Clayton08/28/12 09:28 AM
          Compiler use of ll/sc?Linus Torvalds09/08/12 12:58 PM
            Lock recognition?Paul A. Clayton09/10/12 01:17 PM
              Sorry, I was confusedPaul A. Clayton09/13/12 10:56 AM
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  Article: Haswell TM Alternativesbakaneko08/22/12 02:02 PM
    Article: Haswell TM AlternativesDavid Kanter08/22/12 02:45 PM
      Article: Haswell TM Alternativesbakaneko08/22/12 09:56 PM
  Cache line granularity?Paul A. Clayton08/28/12 09:28 AM
    Cache line granularity?David Kanter08/31/12 08:13 AM
      A looser definition might have advantagesPaul A. Clayton09/01/12 06:29 AM
    Cache line granularity?rwessel08/31/12 07:54 PM
      Alpha load locked granularityPaul A. Clayton09/01/12 06:29 AM
        Alpha load locked granularityanon09/02/12 05:23 PM
          Alpha pages groupsPaul A. Clayton09/03/12 04:16 AM
  An alternative implementationMaynard Handley11/20/12 09:52 PM
    An alternative implementationbakaneko11/21/12 05:52 AM
      Guarding unread values?Paul A. Clayton11/21/12 08:39 AM
        Guarding unread values?bakaneko11/21/12 11:25 AM
    TM granularity and versioningPaul A. Clayton11/21/12 08:27 AM
      TM granularity and versioningMaynard Handley11/21/12 10:52 AM
        Indeed, TM (and coherence) has devilish details (NT)Paul A. Clayton11/21/12 10:56 AM
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