By: anon (anon.delete@this.anon.com), October 16, 2012 8:17 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Robert Myers (rbmyersusa.delete@this.gmail.com) on October 16, 2012 7:28 am wrote:
> forestlaughing (forestlaughing.delete@this.yahoo.com) on October 15, 2012 8:57
> am wrote:
>
> > Even custom vector machines have converged into slight
> variations
> > of what the server processors offer. The advantages of pulling
> functionality
> > into a single chip are huge. The one thing that can't yet
> be pulled into the CPU
> > chip, is main memory, at least not in sizes large
> enough to be super useful.
> > Perhaps chip stacking + TSVs will make this
> possible.
>
> If your answer to every query about why you are not building
> better computers is that you can't, then my response to every claim made by
> everyone in the business is that you should stop building *bigger* computers
> until you know how to build *better* computers.
>
> I will concede that one
> figure of merit that should get attention has gotten attention, and that is
> flops per watt. Aside from that, the business has essentially turned into a
> marketing claims factory.
Interesting mindset: everybody else disagrees with me, therefore everybody else is wrong.
Although there are well known exceptions where such mindset has turned an industry or scientific field upside down, 99.99x% of the time, it comes from a range of people from the one who is very good but does not grasp a particular aspect, down to the complete crackpot.
Perhaps you are an exception. I would like to hear more about the problems and your ideas how to fix them, if you would spare the time. (I assume that "everyone stop what you're doing" is not actually your proposal!)
> forestlaughing (forestlaughing.delete@this.yahoo.com) on October 15, 2012 8:57
> am wrote:
>
> > Even custom vector machines have converged into slight
> variations
> > of what the server processors offer. The advantages of pulling
> functionality
> > into a single chip are huge. The one thing that can't yet
> be pulled into the CPU
> > chip, is main memory, at least not in sizes large
> enough to be super useful.
> > Perhaps chip stacking + TSVs will make this
> possible.
>
> If your answer to every query about why you are not building
> better computers is that you can't, then my response to every claim made by
> everyone in the business is that you should stop building *bigger* computers
> until you know how to build *better* computers.
>
> I will concede that one
> figure of merit that should get attention has gotten attention, and that is
> flops per watt. Aside from that, the business has essentially turned into a
> marketing claims factory.
Interesting mindset: everybody else disagrees with me, therefore everybody else is wrong.
Although there are well known exceptions where such mindset has turned an industry or scientific field upside down, 99.99x% of the time, it comes from a range of people from the one who is very good but does not grasp a particular aspect, down to the complete crackpot.
Perhaps you are an exception. I would like to hear more about the problems and your ideas how to fix them, if you would spare the time. (I assume that "everyone stop what you're doing" is not actually your proposal!)



