By: none (none.delete@this.none.com), November 20, 2010 3:53 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
slacker (s@lack.er) on 11/20/10 wrote:
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>Linus Torvalds (torvalds@linux-foundation.org) on 11/19/10 wrote:
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>>So yes, we're the Tom Jones of the engineering world.
>>
>>So I can see how architecture designers could get some
>>complexes. I understand. But even if you're a total failure
>>in life, and you got your degree in EE rather than CompSci,
>>stand up for yourself, man!
>
>The most amusing thing about the delusional feeling of superiority that computing
>scientists have compared to electrical engineers is that computing scientists have
>an insatiable need to call themselves, "engineers."
>
>CompSci: Still Not a Real Engineering Profession.
I'm a computer scientist working in a CPU design team, and
design engineers certainly despise software writers and,
even worse, software in general. I have heard some
frightening remarks such as there's no need to fix some low
probability hw bug because sw will hit bugs long before; and
that there's no need to handle efficiently some patterns of
instructions because sw will be recompiled or sw people will
learn how to do things efficiently for this chip.
OTOH I'm afraid most software people often don't care about
understanding how a CPU works and most of them don't even
know what a cache miss is.
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>Linus Torvalds (torvalds@linux-foundation.org) on 11/19/10 wrote:
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>>So yes, we're the Tom Jones of the engineering world.
>>
>>So I can see how architecture designers could get some
>>complexes. I understand. But even if you're a total failure
>>in life, and you got your degree in EE rather than CompSci,
>>stand up for yourself, man!
>
>The most amusing thing about the delusional feeling of superiority that computing
>scientists have compared to electrical engineers is that computing scientists have
>an insatiable need to call themselves, "engineers."
>
>CompSci: Still Not a Real Engineering Profession.
I'm a computer scientist working in a CPU design team, and
design engineers certainly despise software writers and,
even worse, software in general. I have heard some
frightening remarks such as there's no need to fix some low
probability hw bug because sw will hit bugs long before; and
that there's no need to handle efficiently some patterns of
instructions because sw will be recompiled or sw people will
learn how to do things efficiently for this chip.
OTOH I'm afraid most software people often don't care about
understanding how a CPU works and most of them don't even
know what a cache miss is.