By: anon (anon.delete@this.anon.com), November 20, 2010 5:43 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
dc (a@b.c) on 11/20/10 wrote:
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>rwessel (robertwessel@yahoo.com) on 11/20/10 wrote:
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>>someone (someone@somewhere.com) on 11/19/10 wrote:
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>>>BTW, if you really want a Tukwila workstation you can
>>>order an HP rx2800i in the "office friendly" (reduced
>>>acoustic) pedestal configuration instead of the usual
>>>rack mount and attach a monitor, keyboard, and mouse.
>>>You have the choice of HP-UX, OpenVMS, or Windows.
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>>Although Windows on IPF is darn close to dead now. The last versions of everything
>>(except patches) that will support IPF have now shipped, and mainstream support
>>for all of those will end in 2013. I can't imagine that there will be any meaningful
>>sales to people who aren't supporting existing systems.
>>
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>I am amused by the idea of an OpenVMS workstation, but aside from developing software
>for OpenVMS, I can't think of any practical use for one. What would you possibly
>do with an OpenVMS workstation? I quite certain the size of this market is statistically indistinguishable from zero.
>
>A couple decades ago, there were plenty of workstation applications available for
>HP-UX. Are there any left today? Again, aside from developing HP-UX applications,
>what practical use is there for an HP-UX workstation?
>
>FreeBSD, Debian Linux and Novell Linux also support IPF, though RedHat 6 drops
>IPF support. However, HP support RedHat 4 & 5, and Novel Linux on the rx2660 but
>not on the newer rx2800. Are there compatibility issues with the latest IPF hardware?
>Is Linux support for IPF whithering away?
It's in much the same boat as POWER. regarding developer machines, unfortunately. But Debian shows that it a lot of code is really quite portable these days. If you're aware of portability issues, there isn't a whole lot you need to bend over backwards for (unless we're talking about OS or compiler)
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>rwessel (robertwessel@yahoo.com) on 11/20/10 wrote:
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>>someone (someone@somewhere.com) on 11/19/10 wrote:
>>---------------------------
>>>BTW, if you really want a Tukwila workstation you can
>>>order an HP rx2800i in the "office friendly" (reduced
>>>acoustic) pedestal configuration instead of the usual
>>>rack mount and attach a monitor, keyboard, and mouse.
>>>You have the choice of HP-UX, OpenVMS, or Windows.
>>
>>
>>Although Windows on IPF is darn close to dead now. The last versions of everything
>>(except patches) that will support IPF have now shipped, and mainstream support
>>for all of those will end in 2013. I can't imagine that there will be any meaningful
>>sales to people who aren't supporting existing systems.
>>
>
>I am amused by the idea of an OpenVMS workstation, but aside from developing software
>for OpenVMS, I can't think of any practical use for one. What would you possibly
>do with an OpenVMS workstation? I quite certain the size of this market is statistically indistinguishable from zero.
>
>A couple decades ago, there were plenty of workstation applications available for
>HP-UX. Are there any left today? Again, aside from developing HP-UX applications,
>what practical use is there for an HP-UX workstation?
>
>FreeBSD, Debian Linux and Novell Linux also support IPF, though RedHat 6 drops
>IPF support. However, HP support RedHat 4 & 5, and Novel Linux on the rx2660 but
>not on the newer rx2800. Are there compatibility issues with the latest IPF hardware?
>Is Linux support for IPF whithering away?
It's in much the same boat as POWER. regarding developer machines, unfortunately. But Debian shows that it a lot of code is really quite portable these days. If you're aware of portability issues, there isn't a whole lot you need to bend over backwards for (unless we're talking about OS or compiler)