The ARM story: Earthquake looming?

By: David Kanter (dkanter.delete@this.realworldtech.com), January 18, 2011 6:44 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Brett (ggtgp@yahoo.com) on 1/18/11 wrote:
---------------------------
>Rob Thorpe (rthorpe@robertthorpeconsulting.com) on 1/18/11 wrote:
>---------------------------
>>Brett (ggtgp@yahoo.com) on 1/18/11 wrote:
>>---------------------------
>>...
>>>Here shows the GLU chip that made the MacSE/30 possible:
>>
>>Max and the others are quite right. The chips that you mention aren't particularly
>>major efforts. Other computers manufacturers did similar things, even small ones.
>>Acorn, for example, built a processor and chipset the architecture they used eventually
>>becoming ARM. At that time even quite large chips weren't necessarily being made
>>by large teams. MOS technologies and Western Design Centre were small companies.
>
>I never claimed that Apple was a CPU design company.
>Building a SOC (System On Chip) complete with Apple designed ADB and Apple designed
>FireWire and Apple designed IWM is not a trivial task.

Which SOC would this be?

>My claim was "Apple has a long history of using SOC to >drive cost down and volumes up."

Volume is more closely related to *price* than cost.

>And then I gave URLs to prove what I had said.
>The resultant commentary is little more than Apple bashing.

Two or three examples are not 'a long history'.

>I am aware of the downsides of SOC, Apple was locked to specific clock frequencies
>for literally years, where as the PC companies tweaked a few more MHz out of their PCs every few months.
>
>Apple has an appliance mindset, not geek clock rate >mindset.
>Clock rates no longer matter, appliances that work do.

I'm not sure you've articulated why it's fundamentally superior to design your own SOC, rather than getting one from a supplier. The costs are relatively similar, modulo a small profit for the SOC designer.

>(Some geeks just went postal. ;)
>
>I could use HP instead as an example of a company that >drove use of SOC to drive
>down cost and enable smaller/cheaper form factors.

Could you elaborate on the SOCs that HP has designed?

>This has made HP the largest PC company, and profitable, >against Dell who spends
>NOTHING on design and is not very profitable.
>Dell could disappear tomorrow and no one would notice.

I'm sure you realize this, but up until recently there were no SOCs in the PC world. You had a CPU, an IO Hub/Southbridge and possibly a northbridge. Even today, you need an IO Hub/Southbridge on all PCs.

>The problem with using HP as the example is that HP did >not invent the iPod, the
>iPhone and the iPad. Each time creating massive new >markets that did not exist before.

Neither did Apple. Portable music players, smart phones and tablets all existed before Apple did anything. What apple did was create far more compelling products that dramatically expanded the consumer market.

>The PC and Microsoft folk all stood up and said "we will >copy Apple and steal 90%
>of the market" iPod still has 90% market share.

The iPod (and most music players) will eventually be subsumed into phones. Now what share of the MP3-playing capable phone market do you think Apple has?

>The day when you could be Dell and slap your sticker on >some one elses hardware
>and make money is over. These poor fools do not have a >clue.

Uh huh. So when do you expect Dell to go out of business? Also, can you explain what hardware Acer designs?

>HP has the best chance to compete with against the iPad >and Googles pad efforts.
>Everyone else is doomed. Microsoft will keep its ~10% pad >market share.

I'm sure Dell, IBM, MS, etc. are all doomed. Just like poor old Apple : )

>While everyone is copying Apples old iPad, Apple is just >about to change the market
>again with the quad pixel retina screen iPad2.

OK, that sentence is literally a bunch of marketing gibberish. What is a retina screen? What is quad pixel?

Perhaps you mean that Apple is rumored to equip the new iPad with a very high resolution display that exceeds a certain PPI.

>Just try and tell me that the penny pinching PC companies >would have spent the
>money to develop and pay for such technology.
>The PC company mindset on costs and indifference to >usability would have meant a half decade wait for such >technology.

That's not really clear. PC companies generally tend to be careful on costs for commodity products. Not all PC products are commodities, and those can actually sustain real R&D spending. For instance, I believe HP developed a high-end monitor and workstation system for graphics designers that is capable of displaying the full range of printable colors. IIRC, they have 10b/color pixel monitors that are sold at a premium.

Asus was largely responsible for the netbook market with their eeePC. They are precisely the sort of 'penny pinching PC company' that you deplore.

>The PC companies would have waited for the volumes to >justify the costs.

Or they would have charged a premium in order to recoup the R&D costs.

>Apple creates the volumes by spending the money first.

Like with the highly successful Newton, Lisa or AppleTV? Price is related to volume. Apple is very good at identifying products that have good volume potential due to consumer appeal. They are much better than PC companies, but not infallible.

Also, volume is relative.

David
< Previous Post in ThreadNext Post in Thread >
TopicPosted ByDate
The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Will Smith2011/01/12 12:30 AM
  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Max2011/01/12 01:50 AM
    Any x86 -> ARM port experience?Ben Harper2011/01/12 03:22 AM
      Any x86 -> ARM port experience?Michael S2011/01/12 06:52 AM
        Any x86 -> ARM port experience?Megol2011/01/12 09:10 AM
          Any x86 -> ARM port experience?Michael S2011/01/12 10:19 AM
            Any x86 -> ARM port experience?Wilco2011/01/12 11:47 AM
              badly written?Michael S2011/01/12 12:59 PM
                badly written?Wilco2011/01/12 02:03 PM
                  badly written?Megol2011/01/13 04:16 AM
                    badly written?Wilco2011/01/13 06:09 AM
                      badly written?Megol2011/01/14 02:28 AM
                        badly written?Wilco2011/01/14 06:20 AM
                  badly written?mpx2011/01/13 08:19 AM
                    badly written?James2011/01/14 03:15 AM
                  unaligned read is fast on NehalemRichard Cownie2011/01/13 09:10 AM
                    unaligned read is fast on NehalemLinus Torvalds2011/01/13 09:45 AM
                      l1 access size?anon2011/01/13 11:16 AM
                      unaligned read is fast on NehalemRichard Cownie2011/01/13 11:21 AM
                      unaligned read is fast on NehalemEduardoS2011/01/13 03:42 PM
                        unaligned read is fast on NehalemMichael S2011/01/13 03:50 PM
                        unaligned read is fast on NehalemRichard Cownie2011/01/13 04:50 PM
                      unaligned read is fast on NehalemKonrad Schwarz2011/01/17 06:28 AM
                badly written?anoneeeemouse2011/01/12 05:31 PM
              And endianness?Ben Harper2011/01/13 04:34 AM
                And endianness?rwessel2011/01/13 04:40 AM
                  And endianness?Wilco2011/01/13 05:20 AM
                    And endianness?Ben Harper2011/01/13 07:11 AM
                    And endianness?Konrad Schwarz2011/01/17 06:20 AM
                      And endianness?Megol2011/01/17 10:09 AM
        Any x86 -> ARM port experience?EduardoS2011/01/12 01:30 PM
      Any x86 -> ARM port experience?anon2011/01/12 09:53 AM
        Any x86 -> ARM port experience?anon2011/01/12 09:28 PM
          Any x86 -> ARM port experience?anon2011/01/12 09:52 PM
    The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Linus Torvalds2011/01/12 10:44 AM
      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/12 02:53 PM
        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?anon2011/01/12 03:14 PM
          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/12 03:20 PM
            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?anon2011/01/12 03:36 PM
              The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/12 04:17 PM
                The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Aaron Spink2011/01/12 04:46 PM
                  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/12 04:54 PM
                The ARM story: Earthquake looming?anon2011/01/12 04:49 PM
                  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/12 05:20 PM
                    The ARM story: Earthquake looming?anon2011/01/12 06:20 PM
                      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/12 07:51 PM
                    Some CoreMark resultsPaul A. Clayton2011/01/12 06:41 PM
                      Some CoreMark resultsWilco2011/01/12 09:49 PM
                        Some CoreMark resultsPaul A. Clayton2011/01/13 08:14 AM
                          Some CoreMark resultsWilco2011/01/13 11:31 AM
                            Some CoreMark resultsLinus Torvalds2011/01/13 11:36 AM
                              Some CoreMark resultsanonymous2011/01/13 12:05 PM
                              Some CoreMark resultsWilco2011/01/13 12:15 PM
                                Some CoreMark resultsLinus Torvalds2011/01/13 02:02 PM
                                  Some CoreMark resultsWilco2011/01/14 07:24 AM
                                    Some CoreMark resultsnone2011/01/14 07:55 AM
        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Linus Torvalds2011/01/12 03:21 PM
          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/12 04:07 PM
            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Linus Torvalds2011/01/12 05:07 PM
              The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Michael S2011/01/13 03:33 AM
                The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Linus Torvalds2011/01/13 08:19 AM
                  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Megol2011/01/14 03:51 AM
          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?anon2011/01/12 04:09 PM
            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Linus Torvalds2011/01/12 05:09 PM
              The ARM story: Earthquake looming?anonymous2011/01/13 05:50 AM
                The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Michael S2011/01/13 06:52 AM
                The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Linus Torvalds2011/01/13 09:28 AM
                  The ARM story: Earthquake looming??2011/01/14 07:48 AM
                    The ARM story: Earthquake looming?none2011/01/14 08:01 AM
                      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?someone2011/01/14 10:03 AM
                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?none2011/01/14 02:38 PM
                          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?someone2011/01/15 09:53 AM
                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?mpx2011/01/15 12:18 AM
                          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Aaron Spink2011/01/15 05:03 AM
                            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Brett2011/01/15 11:01 AM
                              The ARM story: Earthquake looming?mpx2011/01/15 12:40 PM
                              The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Aaron Spink2011/01/17 03:11 PM
                                The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Rob Thorpe2011/01/17 03:35 PM
                                  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Michael S2011/01/17 04:23 PM
                                    As you can see...Rob Thorpe2011/01/17 05:52 PM
                                  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Aaron Spink2011/01/17 04:57 PM
                              The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Greg Gritton2011/01/17 10:57 PM
                                The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Brett2011/01/18 10:00 AM
                                  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Megol2011/01/18 10:11 AM
                              The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Max2011/01/18 12:34 AM
                                The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Brett2011/01/18 09:39 AM
                                  AppleDavid Kanter2011/01/18 10:22 AM
                                  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Max2011/01/18 11:17 AM
                                  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Rob Thorpe2011/01/18 02:36 PM
                                    The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Brett2011/01/18 05:00 PM
                                      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?David Kanter2011/01/18 06:44 PM
                                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?rwessel2011/01/18 08:19 PM
                                        Definition of SOCRob Thorpe2011/01/19 01:24 PM
                                      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Aaron Spink2011/01/18 10:26 PM
                                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Brett2011/01/19 12:57 AM
                                          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Aaron Spink2011/01/19 01:15 AM
                                            Pioneers get arrows in their backsBrett2011/01/19 06:08 PM
                                              Pioneers get arrows in their backsAaron Spink2011/01/19 07:22 PM
                                          Plausible ID, HCI translationPaul A. Clayton2011/01/19 08:18 AM
                                          Quad pixel?David Kanter2011/01/19 01:37 PM
                                            Quad pixel?Brett2011/01/19 02:53 PM
                                              Quad pixel?David Kanter2011/01/19 07:10 PM
                                            TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Linus Torvalds2011/01/19 04:22 PM
                                              TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Aaron Spink2011/01/19 07:15 PM
                                                TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/19 08:11 PM
                                                TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Linus Torvalds2011/01/19 08:12 PM
                                                  TRIM (was Quad pixel?)iz2011/01/19 09:03 PM
                                                    TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Linus Torvalds2011/01/19 09:52 PM
                                                      TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Aaron Spink2011/01/19 10:35 PM
                                                        TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/19 10:43 PM
                                                          TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Aaron Spink2011/01/19 11:23 PM
                                                            TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/20 12:00 AM
                                                              TRIM (was Quad pixel?)mpx2011/01/20 01:34 PM
                                                                TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/20 03:29 PM
                                                            TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Linus Torvalds2011/01/20 08:34 AM
                                                              TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Ricardo B2011/01/20 10:25 AM
                                                                TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Linus Torvalds2011/01/20 10:51 AM
                                                                  TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Aaron Spink2011/01/20 12:28 PM
                                                                    TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/20 01:00 PM
                                                                      TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Aaron Spink2011/01/20 02:52 PM
                                                                        TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/20 03:30 PM
                                                                  TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Ricardo B2011/01/20 12:36 PM
                                                                    TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Linus Torvalds2011/01/20 03:57 PM
                                                                      TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Ricardo B2011/01/20 05:14 PM
                                                                        TRIM (was Quad pixel?)MS2011/01/21 08:06 AM
                                                              TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Aaron Spink2011/01/20 12:19 PM
                                                              TRIM (was Quad pixel?)mpx2011/01/21 04:45 AM
                                                                TRIM (was Quad pixel?)James2011/01/21 06:37 AM
                                                                  TRIM (was Quad pixel?)mpx2011/01/21 02:10 PM
                                                              databases and filesystemsFoo_2011/01/21 05:26 AM
                                                      TRIM (was Quad pixel?)iz2011/01/19 11:45 PM
                                                        TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Linus Torvalds2011/01/20 08:54 AM
                                                          TRIM (was Quad pixel?)iz2011/01/20 10:28 PM
                                                  TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/19 09:34 PM
                                                    TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Doug Siebert2011/01/19 10:48 PM
                                                      TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/19 10:59 PM
                                                        TRIM - How about we use LBA and PBA?Aaron Spink2011/01/19 11:06 PM
                                                          TRIM - How about we use LBA and PBA?anon2011/01/19 11:10 PM
                                                        TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Aaron Spink2011/01/20 04:23 PM
                                                  TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Anon2011/01/19 09:58 PM
                                                  TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Aaron Spink2011/01/19 10:04 PM
                                                    TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/19 10:34 PM
                                                      TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Aaron Spink2011/01/19 10:59 PM
                                                        TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/19 11:18 PM
                                                          TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Aaron Spink2011/01/19 11:54 PM
                                                            TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/20 12:12 AM
                                                              TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Aaron Spink2011/01/20 12:44 AM
                                                                TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/20 07:56 AM
                                                                  TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/20 07:59 AM
                                                                  TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Aaron Spink2011/01/20 12:33 PM
                                                                    TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/20 03:55 PM
                                                                      TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Aaron Spink2011/01/20 04:14 PM
                                                                        TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/20 05:14 PM
                                                                          TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Aaron Spink2011/01/20 07:38 PM
                                                                            TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/20 08:16 PM
                                                                TRIM (was Quad pixel?)mpx2011/01/20 02:58 PM
                                                                Supercapsslacker2011/01/20 03:57 PM
                                                                  SupercapsAaron Spink2011/01/20 04:20 PM
                                                                    Supercapsslacker2011/01/20 04:43 PM
                                                                      SupercapsAaron Spink2011/01/20 07:25 PM
                                                                        Supercapsslacker2011/01/20 10:02 PM
                                                                          SupercapsMS2011/01/21 12:37 PM
                                                    TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Linus Torvalds2011/01/20 08:58 AM
                                                TRIM (was Quad pixel?)ajensen2011/01/21 02:23 AM
                                                  Mythical SSDsRicardo B2011/01/21 05:27 AM
                                                    Mythical SSDsLinus Torvalds2011/01/21 09:24 AM
                                                      Mythical SSDsanon2011/01/21 11:00 AM
                                                      What is off-line?David Kanter2011/01/21 11:09 AM
                                                        What is off-line?Linus Torvalds2011/01/21 12:51 PM
                                                        What is off-line?Octoploid2011/01/21 01:04 PM
                                                      Mythical SSDsajensen2011/01/21 11:28 AM
                                                      Mythical SSDsAaron Spink2011/01/21 11:58 AM
                                                        Mythical SSDsLinus Torvalds2011/01/21 12:21 PM
                                                          Mythical SSDsAaron Spink2011/01/21 03:13 PM
                                                            Mythical SSDsanon2011/01/21 06:47 PM
                                                      Mythical SSDsmpx2011/01/22 12:01 AM
                                                        Mythical SSDsanon2011/01/22 01:08 AM
                                                      Mythical Linus?2011/01/25 06:16 AM
                                                        Mythical LinusUngo2011/01/25 11:35 AM
                                                        Mythical LinusDean Kent2011/01/25 12:14 PM
                                                        Filesystem impactDavid Kanter2011/01/25 12:16 PM
                                                          Filesystem impactUngo2011/01/25 02:15 PM
                                                            Filesystem impactiz2011/01/25 04:18 PM
                                                              Filesystem impactAaron Spink2011/01/26 12:25 PM
                                                          Filesystem impactFoo_2011/01/25 04:14 PM
                                                            Filesystem impactiz2011/01/25 04:24 PM
                                                              Filesystem impactAaron Spink2011/01/26 12:27 PM
                                                                Filesystem impactRobert Myers2011/01/26 05:43 PM
                                                                  Filesystem impactanon2011/01/26 07:29 PM
                                                                Filesystem impactanon2011/01/26 06:19 PM
                                                          Filesystem impactGroo2011/01/25 06:42 PM
                                                            Filesystem impactiz2011/01/25 09:03 PM
                                                              Filesystem impactmpx2011/01/26 01:15 AM
                                                                Filesystem impactiz2011/01/26 02:14 AM
                                                          Windows 7 and SSDs: Setup secrets and tune-up tweaks_Arthur2011/01/26 05:59 PM
                                              TRIMiz2011/01/19 08:54 PM
                                                TRIMAaron Spink2011/01/19 10:43 PM
                                                  TRIMiz2011/01/20 12:01 AM
                                                    TRIMAaron Spink2011/01/20 12:25 AM
                                                      TRIMiz2011/01/20 03:29 AM
                                              TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Megol2011/01/20 02:29 AM
                                                TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Linus Torvalds2011/01/20 09:05 AM
                                                  TRIM (was Quad pixel?)Rob Thorpe2011/01/22 12:30 PM
                                                    TRIM (was Quad pixel?)anon2011/01/22 06:07 PM
                                                      TRIMDavid Kanter2011/01/24 01:05 PM
                                                        TRIManon2011/01/24 01:57 PM
                                                          TRIMMS2011/01/24 02:22 PM
                                                            TRIMDan Downs2011/01/24 05:44 PM
                                                              TRIMDan Downs2011/01/24 05:51 PM
                                                            TRIManon2011/01/24 06:29 PM
                                                              TRIMMS2011/01/24 07:40 PM
                                                            TRIMRicardo B2011/01/25 02:40 PM
                                                        TRIMAnon2011/01/24 05:37 PM
                                                          TRIMRichard Cownie2011/01/24 06:45 PM
                                                            TRIMAaron Spink2011/01/24 06:53 PM
                                                              TRIMAnon2011/01/24 08:28 PM
                                                                TRIMRichard Cownie2011/01/25 06:39 AM
                                                                  TRIM Linus is rightgallier22011/01/25 10:18 AM
                                                                    TRIM Linus is rightMax2011/01/25 11:30 AM
                                                                      TRIM Linus is rightMichael S2011/01/25 12:17 PM
                                                                        TRIM Linus is rightMax2011/01/25 05:15 PM
                                                                        TRIM Linus is rightAnon2011/01/25 08:09 PM
                                                                          TRIM Linus is rightgallier22011/01/26 01:26 AM
                                                                          TRIM Linus is rightanon2011/01/26 08:30 PM
                                                                        TRIM Linus is rightRicardo B2011/01/26 01:12 AM
                                                                          TRIM Linus is rightiz2011/01/26 02:19 AM
                                                                            Linus is wrong - TRIM is *essential*?2011/01/26 04:04 AM
                                                                              Linus is wrong - TRIM is *essential*Meeple2011/01/26 03:34 PM
                                                                              Linus is wrong - TRIM is *essential*iz2011/01/26 07:01 PM
                                                                              Linus is wrong - TRIM is *essential*anon2011/01/26 07:40 PM
                                                                                Linus is wrong - TRIM is *essential*David Kanter2011/01/26 08:09 PM
                                                                                  Linus is wrong - TRIM is *essential*anon2011/01/26 08:40 PM
                                                                            TRIM Linus is rightMS2011/01/26 11:03 AM
                                                                              TRIM Linus is rightMichael S2011/01/26 11:48 AM
                                                                                TRIM Linus is rightMS2011/01/26 12:30 PM
                                                                              Relative latencyDavid Kanter2011/01/26 12:09 PM
                                                                                Relative latencyMS2011/01/26 12:34 PM
                                                                                  NAND flash latenciesslacker2011/01/26 06:14 PM
                                                                                    NAND flash latenciesiz2011/01/26 07:18 PM
                                                                                      NAND flash latencies -- Correctionslacker2011/01/26 07:58 PM
                                                                                        NAND flash latencies -- Correctioniz2011/01/26 11:58 PM
                                                                                          NAND flash latencies -- CorrectionDavid Kanter2011/01/27 12:54 AM
                                                                                            NAND flash latencies -- CorrectionRicardo B2011/01/27 03:42 AM
                                                                                              NAND flash latencies -- Correctioniz2011/01/27 06:54 PM
                                                                                                NAND flash latencies -- CorrectionRicardo B2011/01/28 05:02 AM
                                                                                                  NAND flash latencies -- CorrectionMS2011/01/28 02:06 PM
                                                                                                  NAND flash latencies -- Correctioniz2011/01/28 04:12 PM
                                                                                Relative latencyRicardo B2011/01/26 02:23 PM
                                                                                  Relative latencyMS2011/01/26 03:16 PM
                                                                        TRIM Linus is rightJames2011/01/26 04:26 AM
                                                                      TRIM Linus is rightgallier22011/01/25 01:46 PM
                                                                    TRIM Linus is rightMS2011/01/25 02:10 PM
                                                                      Linus is HALF rightDarrell Coker2011/01/25 06:36 PM
                                                                        Linus is HALF rightRicardo B2011/01/26 12:52 AM
                                                                        EXT4 *not* heavily optimized for rotating media?2011/01/26 01:34 AM
                                                                  TRIMAnon2011/01/25 08:00 PM
                                              The alternative to TRIMMax2011/01/20 10:35 AM
                                                The alternative to TRIManon2011/01/20 03:57 PM
                                                  The alternative to TRIMMax2011/01/21 01:27 AM
                                                The alternative to TRIMDan Downs2011/01/20 04:18 PM
                                                  The alternative to TRIMAaron Spink2011/01/20 04:34 PM
                                                    The alternative to TRIMLinus Torvalds2011/01/20 05:16 PM
                                                      The alternative to TRIMGabriele Svelto2011/01/22 01:10 AM
                                                    The alternative to TRIMDan Downs2011/01/20 06:12 PM
                                                      The alternative to TRIMAaron Spink2011/01/20 07:34 PM
                                                Another Alternative to TrimMark Christiansen2011/01/22 11:07 AM
                                                  Another Alternative to Trimiz2011/01/22 05:43 PM
                                                    Another Alternative to TrimLinus Torvalds2011/01/22 08:12 PM
                                                      Another Alternative to TrimAaron Spink2011/01/23 01:01 AM
                                                      Another Alternative to Trimiz2011/01/23 04:20 AM
                                                      Another Alternative to Trimmpx2011/01/23 11:00 AM
                                                        Another Alternative to Trimiz2011/01/23 05:10 PM
                                              TRIM vs. GC for SSD Longevitympx2011/01/20 01:19 PM
                                                TRIM vs. GC for SSD Longevityiz2011/01/20 06:05 PM
                                                  TRIM vs. GC for SSD Longevitympx2011/01/21 02:29 AM
                                                    TRIM vs. GC for SSD Longevityanon2011/01/21 06:51 PM
                                                TRIM vs. GC for SSD LongevityAaron Spink2011/01/20 07:42 PM
                                                  TRIM vs. GC for SSD LongevityMS2011/01/21 05:07 PM
                                            Quad pixel?Anon2011/01/19 09:48 PM
                                            Quad pixel?mpx2011/01/20 07:40 AM
                                      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Rob Thorpe2011/01/19 12:57 PM
                                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Brett2011/01/19 02:35 PM
                                          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Aaron Spink2011/01/19 07:30 PM
                                            Apollo ComputerBrett2011/01/19 08:52 PM
                                      iPad 2 display same as iPadDavid Kanter2011/02/02 10:12 AM
                                        iPad 2 display same as iPadBrett2011/02/02 12:30 PM
                                          iPad 2 display same as iPadMark Roulo2011/02/02 01:25 PM
                                            iPad 2 display same as iPadBrett2011/02/02 01:59 PM
                                            iPad 2 display same as iPadRichard Cownie2011/02/03 09:30 AM
                                          iPad 2 display same as iPadAnon2011/02/02 03:08 PM
                                        iPad 2 display same as iPadRob Thorpe2011/02/03 10:42 AM
                                The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Ungo2011/01/19 04:54 AM
                            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?mpx2011/01/15 12:32 PM
                              The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Aaron Spink2011/01/17 03:20 PM
                            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?slacker2011/01/15 03:03 PM
                        Intel GMs for low-endDavid Kanter2011/01/18 10:05 AM
                    The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Linus Torvalds2011/01/14 08:29 AM
                      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?a reader2011/01/14 06:25 PM
                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Foo_2011/01/15 02:12 AM
                          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Matt Sayler2011/01/15 11:25 AM
                            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?IntelUser20002011/01/16 04:20 PM
                              The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Matt Sayler2011/01/16 05:02 PM
                                The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Megol2011/01/17 09:18 AM
                                  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Brett2011/01/17 03:58 PM
                                    The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Louis Gerbarg2011/01/17 05:12 PM
                                      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Brett2011/01/17 07:06 PM
                                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Louis Gerbarg2011/01/18 09:13 AM
                                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Rob Thorpe2011/01/18 02:23 PM
                                      Nice postDavid Kanter2011/01/18 10:38 AM
                            New MacBook Pros are getting closerMatt Sayler2011/02/24 08:46 AM
                      The ARM story: Earthquake looming??2011/01/16 08:29 AM
                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?anon2011/01/16 09:08 PM
                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Gabriele Svelto2011/01/16 11:43 PM
                  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Robert Myers2011/01/14 05:29 PM
                    The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Max2011/01/15 06:18 AM
        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Groo2011/01/12 03:59 PM
          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/12 04:40 PM
            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Groo2011/01/12 08:14 PM
        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Adrian2011/01/13 01:35 PM
          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Paul2011/01/13 04:19 PM
            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Adrian2011/01/14 02:50 AM
              The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/14 06:00 AM
                The ARM story: Earthquake looming?none2011/01/14 06:26 AM
                  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/14 06:46 AM
                    The ARM story: Earthquake looming?none2011/01/14 07:02 AM
                    The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Linus Torvalds2011/01/14 08:42 AM
                      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Richard Cownie2011/01/14 09:06 AM
                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?someone2011/01/14 10:20 AM
                          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?fastpathguru2011/01/14 11:22 AM
                          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Richard Cownie2011/01/14 05:01 PM
                            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Aaron Spink2011/01/15 05:07 AM
                            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?slacker2011/01/15 03:08 PM
                              The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Jukka Larja2011/01/16 12:44 AM
                          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?mpx2011/01/15 04:08 AM
                            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Paul2011/01/15 08:20 AM
                        The ARM story: 64 bit or bust?Kevin G2011/01/14 04:21 PM
                          The ARM story: 64 bit or bust?someone2011/01/15 09:48 AM
                      Bye, bye native binarympx2011/01/14 11:51 PM
                        Bye, bye native binaryExophase2011/01/18 05:39 PM
                      RISC with 16 GPRs!?anon2011/01/19 04:42 PM
                        RISC with 16 GPRs!?Exophase2011/01/19 05:20 PM
                        doomed ARM sells 6B cores/yearRichard Cownie2011/01/19 09:01 PM
      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?anon2011/01/12 09:30 PM
      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?mpx2011/01/13 03:05 AM
  Not a chance in hellRohit2011/01/12 06:49 AM
  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?notsure2011/01/12 11:39 AM
  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?mpx2011/01/13 03:27 AM
  The _Android_ story: Earthquake looming?fastpathguru2011/01/13 10:50 AM
    Internet + web apps + multimedia = enablermpx2011/01/14 01:11 AM
    The _Android_ story: Earthquake looming?Will Smith2011/01/14 08:48 AM
  Notebook vendors show no interest in Oak Trail Nicki Minaj2011/01/16 05:37 PM
Reply to this Topic
Name:
Email:
Topic:
Body: No Text
How do you spell purple?