The ARM story: Earthquake looming?

By: notsure (no.delete@this.thanks.com), January 12, 2011 12:39 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Will Smith (will.smith.insights@gmail.com) on 1/12/11 wrote:
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>Given the fact that so far, no forum participant started a topic on this, I thought I go forward and give it a try:
>
>An interested observer of the computing landscape will have noticed several interesting
>facts and rumors related to ARM based gadgets. Examples are:
>
>http://www.crn.com/news/components-peripherals/229000506/intel-arm-to-challenge-one-anothers-strengths.htm;jsessionid=MuVzNueWzhm-CijhkqxlMg**.ecappj03
>
>http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/12/29/evidence-points-apple-designing-arm-laptops/)
>>
>
>http://blogs.nvidia.com/2011/01/project-denver-processor-to-usher-in-new-era-of-computing/
>
>All this points in one direction: An selected number of very able companies (NVIDIA
>confirmed, Apple rumored, there might be others in far east with quite some probability)
>are in the process of 'massaging' the most modern ARM cores to optimally fit netbooks,
>tablets and mobile devices - plus they add graphics capabilities to the very same
>chip. The term 'fit' in this context means low power, very low cost at just the right performance and functionality.
>
>In addition, the corresponding ecosystem is rapidly expanding, adding OS support
>to the already wide range of on-chip functional building blocks.
>
>Add all of that up and you get a game changing disruption - it will feel like an
>earthquake IMHO. Why? This will open up the field considerably towards a new competition
>for everything between a mobile phone and a mid-range PC. It will give system integrators
>a way to differentiate, and it will give truly fabless companies a way to enter
>the CPU/GPU markets. Wow, no longer an Intel play with a few Intel-tolerated players! Exciting future!
>
ARM CPU have been in every mobile phone since mobile phones exist
Mobile Phones market penetration is quickly increasing in every countries in the world and people wants more and more functionnalities. Snake game is not enough anymore.
x86 did not managed to enter this market sofar
But ARM did not managed to enter into x86 natural market either.
So until i see an ARM based laptop/desktop or even netbook, i don't believe that ARM cpu will be able to fight against x86 in their core business: real computers with real performance.
Win8 on ARM is a good weapon to get but it's not enough. Where are High perfomance ARM and when they will come to market and what real perfomance will thet bring on the table then?
I'm waiting for an ARM CPU able to compete with Atom/Ontario. When this event will happen we could start another thread!
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The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Will Smith2011/01/12 01:30 AM
  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Max2011/01/12 02:50 AM
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      Any x86 -> ARM port experience?Michael S2011/01/12 07:52 AM
        Any x86 -> ARM port experience?Megol2011/01/12 10:10 AM
          Any x86 -> ARM port experience?Michael S2011/01/12 11:19 AM
            Any x86 -> ARM port experience?Wilco2011/01/12 12:47 PM
              badly written?Michael S2011/01/12 01:59 PM
                badly written?Wilco2011/01/12 03:03 PM
                  badly written?Megol2011/01/13 05:16 AM
                    badly written?Wilco2011/01/13 07:09 AM
                      badly written?Megol2011/01/14 03:28 AM
                        badly written?Wilco2011/01/14 07:20 AM
                  badly written?mpx2011/01/13 09:19 AM
                    badly written?James2011/01/14 04:15 AM
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                And endianness?rwessel2011/01/13 05:40 AM
                  And endianness?Wilco2011/01/13 06:20 AM
                    And endianness?Ben Harper2011/01/13 08:11 AM
                    And endianness?Konrad Schwarz2011/01/17 07:20 AM
                      And endianness?Megol2011/01/17 11:09 AM
        Any x86 -> ARM port experience?EduardoS2011/01/12 02:30 PM
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        Any x86 -> ARM port experience?anon2011/01/12 10:28 PM
          Any x86 -> ARM port experience?anon2011/01/12 10:52 PM
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      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/12 03:53 PM
        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?anon2011/01/12 04:14 PM
          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/12 04:20 PM
            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?anon2011/01/12 04:36 PM
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                The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Aaron Spink2011/01/12 05:46 PM
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        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Linus Torvalds2011/01/12 04:21 PM
          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/12 05:07 PM
            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Linus Torvalds2011/01/12 06:07 PM
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                                  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Brett2011/01/17 04:58 PM
                                    The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Louis Gerbarg2011/01/17 06:12 PM
                                      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Brett2011/01/17 08:06 PM
                                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Louis Gerbarg2011/01/18 10:13 AM
                                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Rob Thorpe2011/01/18 03:23 PM
                                      Nice postDavid Kanter2011/01/18 11:38 AM
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                      The ARM story: Earthquake looming??2011/01/16 09:29 AM
                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?anon2011/01/16 10:08 PM
                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Gabriele Svelto2011/01/17 12:43 AM
                  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Robert Myers2011/01/14 06:29 PM
                    The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Max2011/01/15 07:18 AM
        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Groo2011/01/12 04:59 PM
          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/12 05:40 PM
            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Groo2011/01/12 09:14 PM
        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Adrian2011/01/13 02:35 PM
          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Paul2011/01/13 05:19 PM
            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Adrian2011/01/14 03:50 AM
              The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/14 07:00 AM
                The ARM story: Earthquake looming?none2011/01/14 07:26 AM
                  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Wilco2011/01/14 07:46 AM
                    The ARM story: Earthquake looming?none2011/01/14 08:02 AM
                    The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Linus Torvalds2011/01/14 09:42 AM
                      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Richard Cownie2011/01/14 10:06 AM
                        The ARM story: Earthquake looming?someone2011/01/14 11:20 AM
                          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?fastpathguru2011/01/14 12:22 PM
                          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Richard Cownie2011/01/14 06:01 PM
                            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Aaron Spink2011/01/15 06:07 AM
                            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?slacker2011/01/15 04:08 PM
                              The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Jukka Larja2011/01/16 01:44 AM
                          The ARM story: Earthquake looming?mpx2011/01/15 05:08 AM
                            The ARM story: Earthquake looming?Paul2011/01/15 09:20 AM
                        The ARM story: 64 bit or bust?Kevin G2011/01/14 05:21 PM
                          The ARM story: 64 bit or bust?someone2011/01/15 10:48 AM
                      Bye, bye native binarympx2011/01/15 12:51 AM
                        Bye, bye native binaryExophase2011/01/18 06:39 PM
                      RISC with 16 GPRs!?anon2011/01/19 05:42 PM
                        RISC with 16 GPRs!?Exophase2011/01/19 06:20 PM
                        doomed ARM sells 6B cores/yearRichard Cownie2011/01/19 10:01 PM
      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?anon2011/01/12 10:30 PM
      The ARM story: Earthquake looming?mpx2011/01/13 04:05 AM
  Not a chance in hellRohit2011/01/12 07:49 AM
  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?notsure2011/01/12 12:39 PM
  The ARM story: Earthquake looming?mpx2011/01/13 04:27 AM
  The _Android_ story: Earthquake looming?fastpathguru2011/01/13 11:50 AM
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    The _Android_ story: Earthquake looming?Will Smith2011/01/14 09:48 AM
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