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Article: Intel's 22nm Tri-Gate Transistors
By: joset (joset_pt.delete@this.yahoo.com), May 9, 2011 4:28 pm
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mere mortal (mere@mortal.com) on 5/9/11 wrote:
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>Guys, you are all too smart to understand Joset's confusion. It takes a mere mortal
>like me to understand Joset's point of view.
>
>Hi Joset. The word 'architecture' in 'micro-architecture' is not like that in homes
>and buildings. Intel's new way of erecting transistors in 'three-pillars' shape
>is not an architectural improvement, because the word architecture here has totally
>different meaning with /that/ architecture.
>
>I think you think that 'tick' is material improvement -- like from clay bricks
>to glass wall -- so you think 'metal gates' is a tick because it's a change of material
>while '3D transistor' is more than tick because it's more than change of material.
>But, no, tick is anything to do with transistor. Material, size, shape -- anything to do with transistor is tick.
>
>So if TSMC announces a new kind of transistor, be it new material, same material
>but smaller, or 3D transistor, or combination of those (TSMC plans to also makes
>3D transistor at around 2015), that's a tick.
>
>Tock is like a change from Radeon 5000-series to Radeon 6000-series -- both are
>made from the same kind of transistors -- same material, same transistor size, and
>same 2D shape. But Radeon 6000 is better than 5000, even that their transistors are exactly the same. It's a tock.
>
>--
>
;) Thanks, but I'll go with Jouni's (kind of) definition:

"And micro-architecture is a high level of the design stack in which the process is the lowest level.",

although I'm not sure if everyone (me included) will be completely satisfied with it.


Cheers!
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