Article: Why Apple Won’t ARM the MacBook
By: David Kanter (dkanter.delete@this.realworldtech.com), May 18, 2011 11:47 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Brett (ggtgp@yahoo.com) on 5/18/11 wrote:
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>David Kanter (dkanter@realworldtech.com) on 5/18/11 wrote:
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>>Brett (ggtgp@yahoo.com) on 5/18/11 wrote:
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>>>As any iOS developer will tell you, iOS is OSX with some >touch calls layered on top.
>>>You can go to developer.apple.com and download the XCode >development system (free) to confirm.
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>>Yes, they are exactly the same. Oh right - except one has multi-tasking and the other does not?
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>I have published iOS titles under my belt, this time you are the one out of your depth, babbling.
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>iOS has always supported multitasking for Apple apps, Apple did not trust its developers
>not to do stupid things with multitasking that would drain the battery and waste
>memory, causing crashes. (Rightly so...)
Um, ok. So from an externaldevelopers perspetive, its not the same. Thank you for clarifying.
>The multitasking policy is similar to the "no adobe flash" policy, Apple does not
>want slow, buggy, virus infested crap, on its platform, making Apple products look bad.
>If you jailbreak your iPhone you can run flash and any other code you >want.
Actually, I suspect the real issue is that Apple doesn't want crossplatform development. But who knows.
>Running flash will cut your battery life by a third, and cause multiple crashes
>a day, as the android people will attest.
>If you double click the On button the list of running apps are shown as icons you
>can scroll through. iOS rarely ends an app, instead the app is paused so you can
>restart where you left off. I have 30 apps running right now on my iPad.
So what?
>>Or maybe they are not the same.
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>Legacy OSX code was removed, and the OS is heavily tuned to run well in the restricted
>amount of RAM. But otherwise iOS is OSX.
So its not the same. I'm glad we are clear on that.
>If you go through the Apple developer videos you can find multiple instances of
>Steve Jobs and the heads of iOS development saying that iOS is OSX. Normally they
>are correcting a question from a software developer who assumes that iOS only looks like OSX!
They are derived from the same source...sure. but they are not the same. They are not fully compatible, they have different features, design points, etc.
DK
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>David Kanter (dkanter@realworldtech.com) on 5/18/11 wrote:
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>>Brett (ggtgp@yahoo.com) on 5/18/11 wrote:
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>>>As any iOS developer will tell you, iOS is OSX with some >touch calls layered on top.
>>>You can go to developer.apple.com and download the XCode >development system (free) to confirm.
>>
>>Yes, they are exactly the same. Oh right - except one has multi-tasking and the other does not?
>
>I have published iOS titles under my belt, this time you are the one out of your depth, babbling.
>
>iOS has always supported multitasking for Apple apps, Apple did not trust its developers
>not to do stupid things with multitasking that would drain the battery and waste
>memory, causing crashes. (Rightly so...)
Um, ok. So from an externaldevelopers perspetive, its not the same. Thank you for clarifying.
>The multitasking policy is similar to the "no adobe flash" policy, Apple does not
>want slow, buggy, virus infested crap, on its platform, making Apple products look bad.
>If you jailbreak your iPhone you can run flash and any other code you >want.
Actually, I suspect the real issue is that Apple doesn't want crossplatform development. But who knows.
>Running flash will cut your battery life by a third, and cause multiple crashes
>a day, as the android people will attest.
>If you double click the On button the list of running apps are shown as icons you
>can scroll through. iOS rarely ends an app, instead the app is paused so you can
>restart where you left off. I have 30 apps running right now on my iPad.
So what?
>>Or maybe they are not the same.
>
>Legacy OSX code was removed, and the OS is heavily tuned to run well in the restricted
>amount of RAM. But otherwise iOS is OSX.
So its not the same. I'm glad we are clear on that.
>If you go through the Apple developer videos you can find multiple instances of
>Steve Jobs and the heads of iOS development saying that iOS is OSX. Normally they
>are correcting a question from a software developer who assumes that iOS only looks like OSX!
They are derived from the same source...sure. but they are not the same. They are not fully compatible, they have different features, design points, etc.
DK