By: David Kanter (dkanter.delete@this.realworldtech.com), August 9, 2011 12:06 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Josh (josh@penstarsys.com) on 8/9/11 wrote:
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>The AMD Brazos platform, consisting of the Ontario and Zacate processors, were announced
>in Nov. 2010.
Honestly being announced means nothing. AMD, Intel and Nvidia have all done paper launches in the past, although generally I consider Intel to be the better of the three. An announcement really isn't enough. I think you're on the right trail with OEM shipments and products though.
>Shipments to OEMs happened after that and initial products >hit in
>January 2011. Intel announced Sandy Bridge on Jan. 9, 2011, with availability of
>these products in mid-February.
They were shipping products to OEMs in 2010, just as AMD was. However, I don't know when OEM shipments started for either (in terms of precise dates) or the volumes.
I mean, when did reviewers get SNB and Brazos samples?
>Then they had the chipset disaster.
Honestly the chipset disaster isn't really all the relevant. There were still people selling SNB, particularly for form factors that don't need more than 2 SATA ports.
>So, even though
>it is close, AMD did ship products before Intel did, and >could claim the first x86
>processor with an integrated GPU (though Geode LX looks to >have had the graphics
>portion on-die, it was not nearly advanced enough to be >considered a GPU).
Yeah, talking about this is a complicated issue since there is no universally accepted definition of shipping/product availability, etc.
There is a huge objective difference between companies that ships 6M units, 100K, 1M units and 30M units. 1M units is a ton of servers. 1M units is a day of client CPUs. How do you judge these things?
Availability at OEMs and retailers matters, but there are many other factors as well.
Back to the matter at hand, they both really launched at CES, and ISTR that Intel might have been a day earlier. My memory may be wrong though...in some ways it's really a minor point overall.
David
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>The AMD Brazos platform, consisting of the Ontario and Zacate processors, were announced
>in Nov. 2010.
Honestly being announced means nothing. AMD, Intel and Nvidia have all done paper launches in the past, although generally I consider Intel to be the better of the three. An announcement really isn't enough. I think you're on the right trail with OEM shipments and products though.
>Shipments to OEMs happened after that and initial products >hit in
>January 2011. Intel announced Sandy Bridge on Jan. 9, 2011, with availability of
>these products in mid-February.
They were shipping products to OEMs in 2010, just as AMD was. However, I don't know when OEM shipments started for either (in terms of precise dates) or the volumes.
I mean, when did reviewers get SNB and Brazos samples?
>Then they had the chipset disaster.
Honestly the chipset disaster isn't really all the relevant. There were still people selling SNB, particularly for form factors that don't need more than 2 SATA ports.
>So, even though
>it is close, AMD did ship products before Intel did, and >could claim the first x86
>processor with an integrated GPU (though Geode LX looks to >have had the graphics
>portion on-die, it was not nearly advanced enough to be >considered a GPU).
Yeah, talking about this is a complicated issue since there is no universally accepted definition of shipping/product availability, etc.
There is a huge objective difference between companies that ships 6M units, 100K, 1M units and 30M units. 1M units is a ton of servers. 1M units is a day of client CPUs. How do you judge these things?
Availability at OEMs and retailers matters, but there are many other factors as well.
Back to the matter at hand, they both really launched at CES, and ISTR that Intel might have been a day earlier. My memory may be wrong though...in some ways it's really a minor point overall.
David