Article: Medfield, Intel's x86 Phone Chip
By: Anon (no.delete@this.email.com), January 26, 2012 2:22 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Doug Siebert (foo@bar.bar) on 1/26/12 wrote:
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>Foo_ (foo@nomail.com) on 1/26/12 wrote:
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>>Yes. I think smartphones will trickle down in the coming years, because the price
>>of entry-level smartphones will decrease and the price of 3G data access will decrease
>>too. So people like me will soon switch to smartphones even though they won't make
>>a heavy use of it, and they will expect decent standby times out of them.
>
>
>There are and will be many low end Android phones coming out which will cause smartphones
>to entirely replace the feature phone market over the next few years. A lot of
>the "smartphones" will be only in name as their owners will use them only as phones,
>and never use any smartphone functionality such as browsing or apps. I wouldn't
>be surprised in fact to see disabling the ability to load apps, removing the browser,
>Wifi capability etc. on the very lowest end models as a method of artificial market segmentation.
>
>I'm sure someone will make (if they aren't already) Android phones that are a bit
>thicker to accomodate a jumbo battery, which would allow a month of standby time
>for those who almost never use their phone. You're not the only who has this usage
>model, my retired parents have a cell phone that they only use when travelling.
>I think maybe my dad also brings it with him when he goes to the grocery store
>so he can call my mom if he can't find something on her list :)
>
>My point in dismissing the advantage in standby when compared to the iPhone 4S
>is that customers who buy the iPhone or an Android phone comparable to the Medfield
>reference platform are buying them to be used heavily as smartphones. The battery
>life when actually using them is pretty much the same. The difference in standby
>time is only relevant to a certain segment of the feature phone replacement market,
>and I doubt Intel plans to (or even can) compete with ARM in that ultimate cut throat
>market where saving even a few pennies in the BOM rules supreme.
>
>
I would agree pretty much.
One other thing to consider, I suspect that cutting down a high end phone to such minimal capability (smaller dimmer screen, slower cpu, lesser gpu, less memory, no 3g, no wireless, no gps, less sensors, etc) would allow a significant increase in the standby time without having to look too deeply at the core architecture.
My point also was more addressed to higher end smartphones, where I would assume intel and arm intend to battle, rather than the lower end.
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>Foo_ (foo@nomail.com) on 1/26/12 wrote:
>---------------------------
>>Yes. I think smartphones will trickle down in the coming years, because the price
>>of entry-level smartphones will decrease and the price of 3G data access will decrease
>>too. So people like me will soon switch to smartphones even though they won't make
>>a heavy use of it, and they will expect decent standby times out of them.
>
>
>There are and will be many low end Android phones coming out which will cause smartphones
>to entirely replace the feature phone market over the next few years. A lot of
>the "smartphones" will be only in name as their owners will use them only as phones,
>and never use any smartphone functionality such as browsing or apps. I wouldn't
>be surprised in fact to see disabling the ability to load apps, removing the browser,
>Wifi capability etc. on the very lowest end models as a method of artificial market segmentation.
>
>I'm sure someone will make (if they aren't already) Android phones that are a bit
>thicker to accomodate a jumbo battery, which would allow a month of standby time
>for those who almost never use their phone. You're not the only who has this usage
>model, my retired parents have a cell phone that they only use when travelling.
>I think maybe my dad also brings it with him when he goes to the grocery store
>so he can call my mom if he can't find something on her list :)
>
>My point in dismissing the advantage in standby when compared to the iPhone 4S
>is that customers who buy the iPhone or an Android phone comparable to the Medfield
>reference platform are buying them to be used heavily as smartphones. The battery
>life when actually using them is pretty much the same. The difference in standby
>time is only relevant to a certain segment of the feature phone replacement market,
>and I doubt Intel plans to (or even can) compete with ARM in that ultimate cut throat
>market where saving even a few pennies in the BOM rules supreme.
>
>
I would agree pretty much.
One other thing to consider, I suspect that cutting down a high end phone to such minimal capability (smaller dimmer screen, slower cpu, lesser gpu, less memory, no 3g, no wireless, no gps, less sensors, etc) would allow a significant increase in the standby time without having to look too deeply at the core architecture.
My point also was more addressed to higher end smartphones, where I would assume intel and arm intend to battle, rather than the lower end.
Topic | Posted By | Date |
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Medfield article online | David Kanter | 2012/01/23 02:51 PM |
server error | bakaneko | 2012/01/24 04:00 AM |
Fixed | David Kanter | 2012/01/24 05:02 AM |
Fixed | Joel | 2012/01/24 08:43 AM |
Fixed | Ricardo B | 2012/01/24 12:25 PM |
Fixed | David Kanter | 2012/01/24 06:29 PM |
Fixed | Gabriele Svelto | 2012/01/24 02:07 PM |
Fixed | David Kanter | 2012/01/24 06:30 PM |
Reference platform battery life | Doug Siebert | 2012/01/24 03:03 PM |
standby time | Foo_ | 2012/01/25 07:58 AM |
standby time | Anon | 2012/01/26 04:42 AM |
standby time | Foo_ | 2012/01/26 05:02 AM |
standby time | Doug Siebert | 2012/01/26 01:39 PM |
standby time | Anon | 2012/01/26 02:22 PM |
standby time | anon | 2012/01/26 03:08 PM |
standby time | Anon | 2012/01/26 07:03 PM |
standby time | anon | 2012/01/26 09:57 PM |
standby time | anon | 2012/01/26 10:01 PM |
standby time | Anon | 2012/01/27 10:32 PM |
standby time | Doug Siebert | 2012/01/27 03:15 PM |
standby time | anon | 2012/01/27 03:41 PM |
Reference platform battery life | David Kanter | 2012/01/27 11:09 AM |
Performance analysis laughable | Wilco | 2012/01/24 04:23 PM |
Performance analysis laughable | David Kanter | 2012/01/24 06:19 PM |
Performance analysis laughable | IntelUser2000 | 2012/01/24 08:30 PM |
Performance analysis laughable | IntelUser2000 | 2012/01/24 08:32 PM |
Performance analysis laughable | David Kanter | 2012/01/25 12:34 AM |
Performance analysis laughable | IntelUser2000 | 2012/01/25 12:56 AM |
Performance analysis laughable | David Kanter | 2012/01/25 03:07 AM |
Performance analysis laughable | Alberto | 2012/01/25 01:54 PM |
Atom HT gain | Wilco | 2012/01/25 06:43 AM |
Atom HT gain | IntelUser2000 | 2012/01/25 07:53 AM |
Atom HT gain | none | 2012/01/25 08:04 AM |
Atom HT gain | IntelUser2000 | 2012/01/25 08:35 AM |
Atom HT gain | Foo_ | 2012/01/25 08:06 AM |
Performance analysis laughable | Wilco | 2012/01/24 09:21 PM |
Performance analysis laughable | David Kanter | 2012/01/24 11:13 PM |
Performance analysis laughable | Wilco | 2012/01/25 05:30 AM |
Performance analysis laughable | none | 2012/01/25 07:14 AM |
Performance analysis laughable | Wilco | 2012/01/25 08:18 AM |
Performance analysis laughable | observer | 2012/01/26 05:17 AM |
Performance analysis laughable | Wilco | 2012/01/26 07:25 AM |
Process numbers | Alberto | 2012/01/26 10:29 AM |
Performance analysis laughable | David Kanter | 2012/02/02 01:38 AM |
Performance analysis laughable | tupper | 2012/01/25 05:27 PM |
Performance analysis laughable | Linus Torvalds | 2012/01/25 09:37 PM |
Performance analysis laughable | Doug Siebert | 2012/01/26 03:12 PM |
Medfield article online | Andreas | 2012/01/25 04:10 AM |
Medfield article online | Alberto | 2012/01/25 10:44 AM |
Medfield article online | IntelUser2000 | 2012/01/25 11:24 AM |
Medfield article online | David Kanter | 2012/01/25 10:58 PM |
Medfield article online | Doug Siebert | 2012/01/26 02:20 PM |
Medfield article online | Eric | 2012/01/26 07:10 PM |
Medfield article online | Doug Siebert | 2012/01/27 03:40 PM |
64-bit | Ingeneer | 2012/01/25 10:28 AM |
64-bit | Foo_ | 2012/01/25 11:23 AM |
64-bit | Ingeneer | 2012/01/25 03:34 PM |
64-bit | Ungo | 2012/01/25 05:08 PM |
64-bit | EduardoS | 2012/01/26 01:55 PM |
Saltwell memcpy | SHK | 2012/01/26 03:41 AM |
Medfield WiFi & Bluetooth | Rob Thorpe | 2012/01/26 04:09 AM |
Medfield WiFi & Bluetooth | David Kanter | 2012/01/27 06:54 PM |
Medfield WiFi & Bluetooth | Rob Thorpe | 2012/01/28 03:22 PM |
Medfield article online (NT) | Anil | 2012/01/26 06:57 PM |
Medfield article online | Anil | 2012/01/26 07:11 PM |
Medfield article online | Mr. Camel | 2012/01/26 07:26 PM |
Medfield article online | none | 2012/01/27 02:41 AM |