Article: AMD's Analyst Update
By: Del (_.delete@this._.com), February 11, 2012 7:39 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Anon (no@email.com) on 2/11/12 wrote:
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>In which case you need to look at the history of DirectX a little more closely,
>at nearly every generation there has been strong evidence of MS favouring one particular
>'camp' (although I hate the term myself..) - MS have well and truely shown that
>they are happy to use DX as a tool to push things the way they want.
Please share details. I haven't seen documentation of this before.
>Personally I think it doesnt matter, I notice you carefully avoid the content I
>wrote about dual codepaths, and the fact that CUDA easily outperforms OpenCL due
>to basic limitations of OpenCL.. as long as that stays true, both will continue
>to be used/supported,
I don't think so. In some apps maybe, but not generally. Maintaining code paths is a hassle. We do not want to do it. Look at what is happening to Fortran. The forces towards standardization are very strong.
>There is an interesting parallel in Cg/GLSL/HLSL.
>It may surprise you to know that Cg is still heavily used, even though it started
>life as an NVidia solution. It is still THE standard for DCC, and HLSL ended up mirroring it quite closely.
>GLSL, the 'open' standard, even in OpenGL, has much less traction.
This is also news to me. Can you provide some pointers to Cg and it's history?
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>In which case you need to look at the history of DirectX a little more closely,
>at nearly every generation there has been strong evidence of MS favouring one particular
>'camp' (although I hate the term myself..) - MS have well and truely shown that
>they are happy to use DX as a tool to push things the way they want.
Please share details. I haven't seen documentation of this before.
>Personally I think it doesnt matter, I notice you carefully avoid the content I
>wrote about dual codepaths, and the fact that CUDA easily outperforms OpenCL due
>to basic limitations of OpenCL.. as long as that stays true, both will continue
>to be used/supported,
I don't think so. In some apps maybe, but not generally. Maintaining code paths is a hassle. We do not want to do it. Look at what is happening to Fortran. The forces towards standardization are very strong.
>There is an interesting parallel in Cg/GLSL/HLSL.
>It may surprise you to know that Cg is still heavily used, even though it started
>life as an NVidia solution. It is still THE standard for DCC, and HLSL ended up mirroring it quite closely.
>GLSL, the 'open' standard, even in OpenGL, has much less traction.
This is also news to me. Can you provide some pointers to Cg and it's history?
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Fused Multiply-Add and HSA | Richard H. | 2012/02/07 06:29 PM |
Fused Multiply-Add and HSA | David Kanter | 2012/02/07 10:54 PM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | pk | 2012/02/09 04:37 AM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | David Kanter | 2012/02/09 10:49 AM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Bryan Catanzaro | 2012/02/09 11:44 AM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | David Kanter | 2012/02/09 04:48 PM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Anon | 2012/02/09 06:11 PM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | David Kanter | 2012/02/09 11:00 PM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Michael S | 2012/02/10 03:54 AM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Anon | 2012/02/10 05:42 PM |
Proprietary SW interfaces and hardware vendors | David Kanter | 2012/02/10 08:07 PM |
Proprietary SW interfaces and hardware vendors | Anon | 2012/02/11 03:08 AM |
Proprietary SW interfaces and hardware vendors | Anon | 2012/02/11 03:12 AM |
Proprietary SW interfaces and hardware vendors | Del | 2012/02/11 07:39 AM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Del | 2012/02/11 07:33 AM |
"NVIDIA is on its way out" | Brendan | 2012/02/10 09:42 PM |
"NVIDIA is on its way out" | anonymous | 2012/02/11 10:37 AM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Del | 2012/02/11 07:22 AM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Anon | 2012/02/11 03:11 PM |
ispc on GPUs | Matt Pharr | 2012/02/12 09:02 AM |
ispc on GPUs | Anon | 2012/02/13 02:34 PM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Erwin Coumans | 2012/02/09 08:39 PM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Brett | 2012/02/10 11:54 AM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | David Kanter | 2012/02/10 03:00 PM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Anon | 2012/02/10 05:45 PM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Brett | 2012/02/10 07:20 PM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | David Kanter | 2012/02/10 07:58 PM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Brett | 2012/02/11 06:15 AM |
Macroscalar | none | 2012/02/11 07:40 AM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Anon | 2012/02/10 05:39 PM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | David Kanter | 2012/02/10 08:19 PM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Anon | 2012/02/11 03:33 AM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | NN | 2012/02/14 03:24 PM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Anon | 2012/02/15 03:16 PM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | bakaneko | 2012/02/11 04:31 AM |
"CUDA is on its way out" | Aaron Spink | 2012/02/09 11:29 PM |
Fused Multiply-Add and HSA | EduardoS | 2012/02/08 02:11 PM |
Fused Multiply-Add and HSA | Foo_ | 2012/02/09 05:24 AM |