By: rwessel (robertwessel.delete@this.yahoo.com), January 30, 2013 11:04 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Doug S (foo.delete@this.bar.bar) on January 30, 2013 9:50 pm wrote:
> Mark Roulo (nothanks.delete@this.xxx.com) on January 30, 2013 3:51 pm wrote:
> > Unless we think that these customers need the RAS (including ECC), the relevant ASP might be
> > the Value Desktop chips at $57.92. I'm guessing that these are single socket, quad core, dual
> > memory channel chips. I'd expect the individual cores to be faster than current ARM cores, so
>
>
> Can you buy those value desktop chips on a server motherboard from anyone? Buyers aren't going
> to want to crowd a bunch of desktop towers into their racks, they want something like that to fit
> in a 1U rack in their datacenter with manageability functions they come to expect from server products.
> I mean, technically it is possible for someone to offer this as a server product, but is it this
> product available anywhere today or only a theoretical possibility? Intel isn't encouraging that
> now, because they want to sell you server parts at a higher ASP and margin. The fact they COULD
> go lower indicates there is some slack in the market for ARM OEMs to try to exploit.
While I'm not sure exactly which Celeron we're talking about, you do see at least some Celeron's in 1U boxes. Dell offers their PowerEdge R210 II with a Celeron G530 as the cheapest CPU option. They don't have a Celeron option on their next generation 1U boxes, but none of those are in the R210s price range, so that may be something they add in the future.
> Mark Roulo (nothanks.delete@this.xxx.com) on January 30, 2013 3:51 pm wrote:
> > Unless we think that these customers need the RAS (including ECC), the relevant ASP might be
> > the Value Desktop chips at $57.92. I'm guessing that these are single socket, quad core, dual
> > memory channel chips. I'd expect the individual cores to be faster than current ARM cores, so
>
>
> Can you buy those value desktop chips on a server motherboard from anyone? Buyers aren't going
> to want to crowd a bunch of desktop towers into their racks, they want something like that to fit
> in a 1U rack in their datacenter with manageability functions they come to expect from server products.
> I mean, technically it is possible for someone to offer this as a server product, but is it this
> product available anywhere today or only a theoretical possibility? Intel isn't encouraging that
> now, because they want to sell you server parts at a higher ASP and margin. The fact they COULD
> go lower indicates there is some slack in the market for ARM OEMs to try to exploit.
While I'm not sure exactly which Celeron we're talking about, you do see at least some Celeron's in 1U boxes. Dell offers their PowerEdge R210 II with a Celeron G530 as the cheapest CPU option. They don't have a Celeron option on their next generation 1U boxes, but none of those are in the R210s price range, so that may be something they add in the future.