ARM diversity might be an advantage

Article: Microservers must Specialize to Survive
By: Paul A. Clayton (paaronclayton.delete@this.gmail.com), February 2, 2013 10:10 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Patrick Chase (patrickjchase.delete@this.gmail.com) on February 1, 2013 10:11 pm wrote:
> David suggested posting this to the forum. I think he has a few remarks of his own to add on this topic...
>
> I think that the statement that x86 takes 5-15% more area than RISC is a bit simplistic,
> because the penalty is highly variable depending on what performance level you're
> targeting and what sort of microarchitecture you have to use to get there.

x86 also has a steeper learning curve as one needs to learn the tricks to handle various odds and ends. Intel and AMD already have institutional knowledge about implementation (including validation tools), but a third party is less likely to find implementing a variant or an original design worthwhile (even if Intel provided the appropriate licensing). It has also been argued that a "necessity is the mother of invention" factor drove x86 implementers to innovate.

A clean RISC like Alpha (or--from what I have read--AArch64) would be much more friendly to fast bring-up of a decent microarchitecture. (Classic ARM seems to be somewhere in the middle--not as complex as x86 but not as simple as Alpha--, but even with Thumb2+classic ARM it might be closer to Alpha than to x86.)

[snip]
> My own take is that for ARM-based microservers to survive they need to stay down in the "many weak cores"
> regime and focus on massively parallel workloads that can tolerate the latency penalty. If they try to
> move up into higher performance brackets then they'll be playing directly into Intel's hand.

I agree that trying to compete with Intel x86 at the high performance end will be excessively difficult, but I think the ARM brigade may have a flexibility advantage. Even though Intel has been demonstrating some willingness to try new things and develop concurrent multiple microarchitectures, Intel seems to be too conservative to try radical designs. It is not clear that ARM will take advantage of its greater tolerance of diversity (while learning to provide a coherent interface to software) to introduce some weird and wonderful architectural features. ARM has been very quiet about transactional memory and multithreading; features along the lines of Intel's TSX and MIPS' MT-ASE could be significant in the server market.

Even if ARM does not innovate much architecturally, I think the implementers may feel much more free to try different accelerators and microarchitectural tweaks. With an Architecture license, non-ARM implementers could even add new instructions.
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                                                  are ZSCO flags really fundamental?EduardoS2013/02/27 10:07 PM
                                                    are ZSCO flags really fundamental?Michael S2013/02/28 03:58 AM
                                                  are ZSCO flags really fundamental?rwessel2013/02/27 11:29 PM
                                                    are ZSCO flags really fundamental?rwessel2013/02/27 11:32 PM
                                                    Bit numbering on big endian machinesKonrad Schwarz2013/02/28 12:49 AM
                                                      Bit numbering on big endian machinesrwessel2013/02/28 01:32 AM
                                          ARMv8 cleanlinessWilco2013/02/25 04:54 AM
                                            ARMv8 cleanlinessEduardoS2013/02/25 05:24 AM
                                              ARMv8 cleanlinessWilco2013/02/25 06:36 AM
                                                ARMv8 cleanlinessEduardoS2013/02/25 12:06 PM
                                                  ARMv8 cleanlinessWilco2013/02/25 04:24 PM
                                                    ARMv8 cleanlinessEduardoS2013/02/25 04:55 PM
                                                    Utility of data loss exceptionsPaul A. Clayton2013/02/25 07:18 PM
                                                      Utility of data loss exceptionsrwessel2013/02/26 12:00 AM
                                                        Excessively expensive mode changingPaul A. Clayton2013/02/26 05:15 AM
                                                      Utility of data loss exceptionsEduardoS2013/02/26 01:55 AM
                                                        Utility of data loss exceptionsTREZA2013/02/26 03:53 AM
                                                          Utility of data loss exceptionsEduardoS2013/02/26 04:37 AM
                                                      Utility of data loss exceptionsEtienne2013/02/26 05:01 AM
                                            1b vs. 4b not a huge difference?Paul A. Clayton2013/02/25 08:57 AM
                                  Possible benefit of multi-bit CCPaul A. Clayton2013/02/23 07:09 AM
                                ARMv8 cleanlinessrwessel2013/02/17 11:01 PM
                                  ARMv8 cleanlinessWilco2013/02/18 04:33 PM
                                    ARMv8 cleanlinessEduardoS2013/02/18 07:18 PM
                                      ARMv8 cleanlinessWilco2013/02/25 05:19 AM
                      ARMv8 cleanlinessTREZA2013/02/15 03:21 AM
                      ARMv8 cleanliness2013/02/17 09:49 AM
                        ARMv8 cleanlinessLinus Torvalds2013/02/17 10:54 AM
                          ARMv8 cleanlinessLinus Torvalds2013/02/17 10:58 AM
                          ARMv8 cleanlinessnone2013/02/17 03:36 PM
                        ARMv8 cleanlinessTREZA2013/02/17 10:59 AM
                          ARMv8 cleanlinessWilco2013/02/17 11:30 AM
                            and-compare and or-comparePaul A. Clayton2013/02/17 04:28 PM
                              early branch resolutionanon2013/02/18 01:05 AM
                                My ignorance about compilers is vasterPaul A. Clayton2013/02/18 12:30 PM
                                early branch resolutionanon2013/02/18 04:12 PM
                              early branch resolution?EBFE2013/02/19 12:03 AM
                                Early resolution: some but limited potentialPaul A. Clayton2013/02/19 04:52 PM
                                  Early resolution: some but limited potentialhobold2013/02/20 01:02 PM
                                    PPC750 was an inspirationPaul A. Clayton2013/02/23 07:09 AM
                          ARMv8 cleanlinessTREZA2013/02/17 12:53 PM
                            ARMv8 cleanlinessExophase2013/02/17 03:49 PM
                        ARMv8 cleanlinessWilco2013/02/17 11:07 AM
                        ARMv8 cleanlinessbakaneko2013/02/17 11:43 AM
                        ARMv8 cleanlinessJouni Osmala2013/02/17 12:10 PM
                          -1 comparison true seems betterPaul A. Clayton2013/02/17 05:07 PM
                  ARMv8 cleanlinessEtienne2013/07/17 01:58 AM
      ARM server benchmark- why Apache?Per Hesselgren2013/02/04 11:13 PM
        ARM server benchmark- why Apache?anon2013/02/04 11:38 PM
          ARM server benchmark- why Apache?Per Hesselgren2013/02/05 12:25 AM
            ARM server benchmark- why Apache?Michael S2013/02/05 01:13 AM
          ARM server benchmark- why Apache?Michael S2013/02/05 12:51 AM
          I think that was debunked alreadyDavid Kanter2013/02/05 06:36 PM
        ARM server benchmark- why Apache?bakaneko2013/02/06 01:37 AM
          ARM server benchmark- why Apache?Michael S2013/02/06 02:43 AM
            Marketing to PHBs?Paul A. Clayton2013/02/06 05:40 AM
            ARM server benchmark- why Apache?bakaneko2013/02/06 06:08 AM
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