By: Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com), February 3, 2013 2:40 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
anon (anon.delete@this.anon.com) on February 2, 2013 10:21 pm wrote:
> Richard Cownie (tich.delete@this.pobox.com) on February 2, 2013 6:55 pm wrote:
> > Ricardo B (ricardo.b.delete@this.xxxxxx.xx) on February 2, 2013 6:31 pm wrote:
> >
> > > Intel's margins in the x86 business because they manage to deliver a win-win: better products
> > > (performance, power) with lower production costs (area, yield) than the competition.
> >
> > Intel's competition in x86 has been constrained by the patent and licensing
> > issues around the various versions of the x86 ISA.
>
> Yes, although we already demonstrated that this is a red herring for the purpose of discussing
> competitiveness in non-x86 markets, by their way of taking much of the RISC/UNIX market.
>
You present it like RISC/UNIX server market was somehow established by 1996. It was not.
RISC/UNIX severs themselves were still in process of coming from below (workstations) and taking market share away from traditional non-RISC and/or non-UNIX minis and mainframes.
Also back then the most common type of server was still a file server, where x86 (Novel Netware) was a dominant player.
> Richard Cownie (tich.delete@this.pobox.com) on February 2, 2013 6:55 pm wrote:
> > Ricardo B (ricardo.b.delete@this.xxxxxx.xx) on February 2, 2013 6:31 pm wrote:
> >
> > > Intel's margins in the x86 business because they manage to deliver a win-win: better products
> > > (performance, power) with lower production costs (area, yield) than the competition.
> >
> > Intel's competition in x86 has been constrained by the patent and licensing
> > issues around the various versions of the x86 ISA.
>
> Yes, although we already demonstrated that this is a red herring for the purpose of discussing
> competitiveness in non-x86 markets, by their way of taking much of the RISC/UNIX market.
>
You present it like RISC/UNIX server market was somehow established by 1996. It was not.
RISC/UNIX severs themselves were still in process of coming from below (workstations) and taking market share away from traditional non-RISC and/or non-UNIX minis and mainframes.
Also back then the most common type of server was still a file server, where x86 (Novel Netware) was a dominant player.