By: Kira (kirsc.delete@this.aeterna.ru), February 4, 2013 3:26 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Patrick Chase (patrickjchase.delete@this.gmail.com) on February 4, 2013 11:47 am wrote:
> Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on February 4, 2013 2:27 am wrote:
> > Patrick Chase (patrickjchase.delete@this.gmail.com) on February 3, 2013 2:27 pm wrote:
> > >
> > > With that said, you gave me plenty of evidence yourself. R10K was >50% bigger for a 10% advantage
> > > in integer and a 50% advantage in FP.
> >
> > 50% in FP is for Spec95, I assume.
> > In Spec2k the difference was ALOT bigger - 2.4x.
> > I wonder why Spec2k and spec95 produce so different pictures?
>
> Two words: Cache footprint.
>
> SpecFP95 had a notoriously small working set. SpecFP2k was better in that respect. The R14K you cite had
> an 8 MB external last level cache, vs. 512 KB for the PIII. That big cache gave R14K quite a significant
> benefit in SpecFP2k and similar technical workloads, which is precisely why SGI put it there :-).
>
> Also those weren't contemporaneous systems. The PIII-500 HW availability is 3/99, versus
> 7/01 for the R14K. A *lot* changes in 2 years in this industry. The best Intel SpecFP2k
> submission with 7/01 availability was for the 1.8 GHz P4, which scored 631. Here: http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2001q3/cpu2000-20010702-00741.html
>
> -- Patrick
Not to split hairs, but unless you qualify Merced as an HP processor, the fastest Intel specfp submission was actually an 800MHz Merced with a score of 715:
http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2001q2/cpu2000-20010522-00663.html
> Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on February 4, 2013 2:27 am wrote:
> > Patrick Chase (patrickjchase.delete@this.gmail.com) on February 3, 2013 2:27 pm wrote:
> > >
> > > With that said, you gave me plenty of evidence yourself. R10K was >50% bigger for a 10% advantage
> > > in integer and a 50% advantage in FP.
> >
> > 50% in FP is for Spec95, I assume.
> > In Spec2k the difference was ALOT bigger - 2.4x.
> > I wonder why Spec2k and spec95 produce so different pictures?
>
> Two words: Cache footprint.
>
> SpecFP95 had a notoriously small working set. SpecFP2k was better in that respect. The R14K you cite had
> an 8 MB external last level cache, vs. 512 KB for the PIII. That big cache gave R14K quite a significant
> benefit in SpecFP2k and similar technical workloads, which is precisely why SGI put it there :-).
>
> Also those weren't contemporaneous systems. The PIII-500 HW availability is 3/99, versus
> 7/01 for the R14K. A *lot* changes in 2 years in this industry. The best Intel SpecFP2k
> submission with 7/01 availability was for the 1.8 GHz P4, which scored 631. Here: http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2001q3/cpu2000-20010702-00741.html
>
> -- Patrick
Not to split hairs, but unless you qualify Merced as an HP processor, the fastest Intel specfp submission was actually an 800MHz Merced with a score of 715:
http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2001q2/cpu2000-20010522-00663.html