Article: Intel's Long Awaited Return to the Memory Business

Article: Intel’s Long Awaited Return to the Memory Business
By: Alpha (alpha.delete.delete@this.invalidemail.com), April 24, 2013 8:10 am
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Ungo (a.delete@this.b.c.d.e) on April 23, 2013 12:33 pm wrote:
> David Kanter (dkanter.delete@this.realworldtech.com) on April 23, 2013 8:14 am wrote:
> > As always, I encourage discussion, so let the fun begin!
>
> I disagree with this bit:
>
>
Realistically, retention is not a problem for Intel since Haswell is a client
> chip that is unlikely to reach junction temperatures much above 80C, whereas
> IBM’s server processors must operate at far higher temperatures.

>

>
> Client chips on the desktop seldom reach high temperatures, but mobile is a different story. I have
> temperature monitoring software on a 2011 MacBook Air (Sandy Bridge), and I've seen 90C or higher readings
> from CPU on-die sensors during heavy CPU load. (The i7-2677M CPU is rated at Tjmax=100C.)
>
> SNB/IVB ultrabooks and other slim/light designs depend on permitting the delta-T between
> silicon and ambient air to grow as high as it can without exceeding Tjmax. I expect to see
> Haswell systems doing exactly the same. Nobody would be very happy with Haswell portables
> needing a significantly larger and/or noisier thermal system to keep GT3e eDRAM cool.
>

GT3e isn't going into ultrabooks anyway, so i don't think this is an issue.
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