Ricardo B (ricardo.b.delete@this.xxxxx.xx) on May 15, 2013 3:50 am wrote:

> that there are lots of people using CPU for video transcoding (ie, Handbrake) for reasons

I think that's "lots of people" meaning 10K or maybe 100K people. But the installed
base of desktops/laptops is hundreds of millions (the vast majority of whom are doing
either no video transcoding, or video transcoding using the pretty-good very-fast
hardware transcode engine).

>I've
> already explained, that there is an increasing number of game engines that can use 8T.

Gaming is a subset of the total market; out of that subset, gaming rigs which aren't
limited by a low/midrange GPU are a smaller subset; and out of that smaller subset
you're picking those which happen to be running the few gaming engines which show
a useful speedup on 4C/8T over 4C/4T.

> And ironically, when you're asked for common needs of straight out single thread
> performance, all you can come up are examples which in the common case won't
> stress even a single core, like web browsing and word processing.

Web browsing seems to stress a single core pretty darn often. Pages don't render
instantly.

> You're mis-representing normal people's needs to fit your argument that for normal
> people, it would be best to sacrifice SMT and gain 1% of single thread performance.

I don't think I'm misrepresenting anything. The vast majority of people with a 4C
are getting no benefit at all from SMT.