By: none (none.delete@this.none.com), July 11, 2013 5:58 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on July 11, 2013 5:33 am wrote:
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> I don't follow. How disassembly tells us anything about denormals handling?
> It's in control flags that we can't see.
It doesn't. But as I had read that some people thought that the Android x86 version was using x87 (the Windows 32-bit version does use x87), I thought it made sense to say it.
> > Now if you can also explain with denormals why CT+ is beaten by A15 and
> > Krait even for single threaded integer tasks, I'm very interested :-)
> >
>
> It's beaten by the margin that one would expect:
> http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/compare/2122693/1970335
> http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/compare/2147177/1970335
> The difference is probably very similar to the difference in power consumption. Which, of course, means
> that A15 and Krait are better CPUs since they got equal perf/Watt with higher absolute performance.
Which makes me think I have always found the Lua score odd. ARM chips are doing very well on it (even a Cortex-A9 @ 1.4 GHz crushes a CT+ @ 2.0 GHz), and I wonder why.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/compare/2085507/1970892
The sum of the single-threaded benches is 4482 for the A9 and 4371 for the Z2580.
[...]
> I don't follow. How disassembly tells us anything about denormals handling?
> It's in control flags that we can't see.
It doesn't. But as I had read that some people thought that the Android x86 version was using x87 (the Windows 32-bit version does use x87), I thought it made sense to say it.
> > Now if you can also explain with denormals why CT+ is beaten by A15 and
> > Krait even for single threaded integer tasks, I'm very interested :-)
> >
>
> It's beaten by the margin that one would expect:
> http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/compare/2122693/1970335
> http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/compare/2147177/1970335
> The difference is probably very similar to the difference in power consumption. Which, of course, means
> that A15 and Krait are better CPUs since they got equal perf/Watt with higher absolute performance.
Which makes me think I have always found the Lua score odd. ARM chips are doing very well on it (even a Cortex-A9 @ 1.4 GHz crushes a CT+ @ 2.0 GHz), and I wonder why.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench2/compare/2085507/1970892
The sum of the single-threaded benches is 4482 for the A9 and 4371 for the Z2580.