By: Kevin G (kevin.delete@this.cubitdesigns.com), August 7, 2013 11:00 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Mark Roulo (nothanks.delete@this.xxx.com) on August 7, 2013 9:55 am wrote:
> Kevin G (kevin.delete@this.cubitdesigns.com) on August 7, 2013 8:08 am wrote:
> > Mark Roulo (nothanks.delete@this.xxx.com) on August 6, 2013 12:25 pm wrote:
> > > Doug S (foo.delete@this.bar.bar) on August 6, 2013 11:47 am wrote:
> > > > someone (someone.delete@this.somewhere.com) on August 6, 2013 11:25 am wrote:
> > > > > someone (someone.delete@this.somewhere.com) on August 6, 2013 11:22 am wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I doubt IBM will still be in the chip business come "Roadmap 2020".
> > > > >
> > > > > Chip *making* business. IBM will likely still be designing new Power and Z chips
> > > > > but TSMC of GloFo will be spinning the wafers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Doesn't IBM operate the only fab licensed to produce chips the DoD and NSA require to be produced
> > > > in the US by a secure fab? Unless Intel is able to take that over with one of its US fabs, it seems
> > > > as though a few billion in 'black program' operating budget might be found to keep that running.
> > >
> > >
> > > You are thinking of this:
> > >
> > > http://www.nsa.gov/business/programs/tapo.shtml
> > >
> > > One option would be for the US government to give IBM several billion dollars to
> > > keep going. Another option would be for the US government to cut a deal with Intel
> > > ... especially now that Intel is sorta trying to get into the foundry business.
> >
> > I haven't seen indication that Intel is formally on the trusted foundry list. I thought one
> > of their customers (Achronix?) used IBM's trusted foundry lines for FPGA chips for the DoD.
>
> My thought was that Intel could become a trusted foundry ... replacing IBM.
They could but it appears that they haven't (yet?). This is something that both Intel and the DoD would both mention to the public for future customers and those currently using trusted foundries.
> Kevin G (kevin.delete@this.cubitdesigns.com) on August 7, 2013 8:08 am wrote:
> > Mark Roulo (nothanks.delete@this.xxx.com) on August 6, 2013 12:25 pm wrote:
> > > Doug S (foo.delete@this.bar.bar) on August 6, 2013 11:47 am wrote:
> > > > someone (someone.delete@this.somewhere.com) on August 6, 2013 11:25 am wrote:
> > > > > someone (someone.delete@this.somewhere.com) on August 6, 2013 11:22 am wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I doubt IBM will still be in the chip business come "Roadmap 2020".
> > > > >
> > > > > Chip *making* business. IBM will likely still be designing new Power and Z chips
> > > > > but TSMC of GloFo will be spinning the wafers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Doesn't IBM operate the only fab licensed to produce chips the DoD and NSA require to be produced
> > > > in the US by a secure fab? Unless Intel is able to take that over with one of its US fabs, it seems
> > > > as though a few billion in 'black program' operating budget might be found to keep that running.
> > >
> > >
> > > You are thinking of this:
> > >
> > > http://www.nsa.gov/business/programs/tapo.shtml
> > >
> > > One option would be for the US government to give IBM several billion dollars to
> > > keep going. Another option would be for the US government to cut a deal with Intel
> > > ... especially now that Intel is sorta trying to get into the foundry business.
> >
> > I haven't seen indication that Intel is formally on the trusted foundry list. I thought one
> > of their customers (Achronix?) used IBM's trusted foundry lines for FPGA chips for the DoD.
>
> My thought was that Intel could become a trusted foundry ... replacing IBM.
They could but it appears that they haven't (yet?). This is something that both Intel and the DoD would both mention to the public for future customers and those currently using trusted foundries.