anon (anon.delete@this.anon.com) on August 22, 2013 1:53 am wrote:
> mas (mas769.delete@this.hotmail.com) on August 22, 2013 1:19 am wrote:
> > none (none.delete@this.none.com) on August 21, 2013 8:25 pm wrote:
> > > mas (mas769.delete@this.hotmail.com) on August 21, 2013 6:10 pm wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > Don't worry about Intel, it's big and ugly enough to take care of itself and the ARM competition
> > > > will have done it and general consumers good in the long run just like AMD did. ARM is going to
> > > > be celeronized eventually by better quality x86 cores but not before the cost of computing has been
> > > > brought down considerably for World consumers. Why do you think Warren East left ARM, he knew the
> > > > ARM mobile monopoly was finished as soon as Intel had got x86 into a phone form factor.
> > >
> > > I was wondering when your Intel cheerleading would be as
> > > obvious in this tech forum as it is in financial ones.
> >
> > Glad I could meet your expectations. I just tell it like I see it and to me ARM is just a paper
> > tiger whose bite will soon be shown to be quite toothless. Intel/Power make better performance
> > processors and MIPS make more efficient processors,
>
> But it is not just ARM CPU designs these days.
>
> > it is an accident of history ARM is where
> > it is today but it will be corrected in time as herd hype will only take you so far.
>
> Well the first iphone was released more than 6 years ago, and so the CPU design procurement
> and process must have begun significantly before then. Why has MIPS never been a serious
> contender from then until now, if ARM is just winning designs on hype?
>
> Probably there is quite some barrier to entry for these markets now, with big software ecosystems
> and MIPS not having so much weight as Intel to push into the market. However if that is the reason,
> then what reason changes the situation such that MIPS will become a competitor?
>

With MIPS I was thinking more of it defending its current markets from ARM chips used in a throughput manner like say X-Gene but in time if x86 cleans ARM's clock enough times over enough years in mobile the fabless/foundry business model guys may look for a more potent architectural competitor to fight back with against x86. We shall see but I just wanted to counter on this particular thread the commonly held assertion that the continued rise of ARM is inevitable. The visible development/process roadmaps for everybody does not point that way.