Article: Knights Landing CPU Speculation
By: Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com), November 18, 2013 3:57 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
James (no.delete@this.thanks.invalid) on November 18, 2013 6:26 am wrote:
> David Kanter (dkanter.delete@this.realworldtech.com) on November 18, 2013 3:03 am wrote:
>
> (Do we have any figures for Xeon Phi's expected sales? I'm slightly surprised
> that you think Intel could justify doing a complete new core for it.)
Exactly.
Taking into account how irrelevant Knights Landing is to Intel's bottom line, any core option except minimally improved Knights Corner is extremely unlikely.
I can imagine brand new core only in one scenario - if VPU-less variant of the same core is used for Intel's variant of Niagara. But, then again, why would Intel want to build its own Nigara when even the latest iteration of SparcT is seriously less Niagarish then the previous one.
> David Kanter (dkanter.delete@this.realworldtech.com) on November 18, 2013 3:03 am wrote:
>
> (Do we have any figures for Xeon Phi's expected sales? I'm slightly surprised
> that you think Intel could justify doing a complete new core for it.)
Exactly.
Taking into account how irrelevant Knights Landing is to Intel's bottom line, any core option except minimally improved Knights Corner is extremely unlikely.
I can imagine brand new core only in one scenario - if VPU-less variant of the same core is used for Intel's variant of Niagara. But, then again, why would Intel want to build its own Nigara when even the latest iteration of SparcT is seriously less Niagarish then the previous one.
| Topic | Posted By | Date |
|---|---|---|
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | David Kanter | 2013/11/18 03:03 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | none | 2013/11/18 03:59 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Patrick Chase | 2013/11/23 04:18 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | 2013/11/26 02:20 AM | |
| Over 2,000 mm^2 of eDRAM??? | Mark Roulo | 2013/11/26 10:28 AM |
| Over 2,000 mm^2 of eDRAM??? | David Kanter | 2013/11/26 12:09 PM |
| Over 2,000 mm^2 of eDRAM??? | Eric Bron | 2013/11/26 12:21 PM |
| Over 2,000 mm^2 of eDRAM??? | tarlinian | 2013/11/26 12:50 PM |
| Over 2,000 mm^2 of eDRAM??? | Eric Bron | 2013/11/26 02:07 PM |
| Over 2,000 mm^2 of eDRAM??? | Eric Bron | 2013/11/26 02:09 PM |
| Over 2,000 mm^2 of eDRAM??? | aaron spink | 2013/11/26 04:03 PM |
| Over 2,000 mm^2 of eDRAM??? | Eric Bron | 2013/11/27 12:42 AM |
| Over 2,000 mm^2 of eDRAM??? | aaron spink | 2013/11/27 11:31 AM |
| Over 2,000 mm^2 of eDRAM??? | David Kanter | 2013/11/26 05:25 PM |
| Over 2,000 mm^2 of eDRAM??? | tarlinian | 2013/11/26 08:01 PM |
| Over 2,000 mm^2 of eDRAM??? | Eric | 2013/11/27 03:54 AM |
| eDRAM is DRAM in a logic-oriented process | Paul A. Clayton | 2013/11/27 08:10 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | James | 2013/11/18 06:26 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Michael S | 2013/11/18 03:57 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Urban Novak | 2013/11/19 01:49 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | none | 2013/11/19 02:19 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Eric | 2013/11/19 08:48 PM |
| Total GPGPU/Xeon Phi market maybe ~ $500M/year ... | Mark Roulo | 2013/11/20 11:35 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Wes Felter | 2013/11/19 01:06 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Michael S | 2013/11/19 01:49 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Eric | 2013/11/18 01:17 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Daniel | 2013/11/19 03:28 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Eric | 2013/11/19 08:36 PM |
| HPC guys score FLOPS non-obviously | Mark Roulo | 2013/11/20 11:43 AM |
| 3-TFlops-DGEMM | Michael S | 2013/11/20 11:59 AM |
| 3-TFlops-DGEMM | Mark Roulo | 2013/11/20 01:22 PM |
| 3-TFlops-DGEMM | Daniel | 2013/11/20 02:04 PM |
| 3-TFlops-DGEMM | Eric | 2013/11/21 02:28 AM |
| 3-TFlops-DGEMM | Michael S | 2013/11/21 06:48 AM |
| 3-TFlops-DGEMM | RecessionCone | 2013/11/21 12:13 PM |
| 3-TFlops-DGEMM | Michael S | 2013/11/21 03:34 PM |
| 3-TFlops-DGEMM | Eric | 2013/11/22 03:10 AM |
| 3-TFlops-DGEMM | Michael S | 2013/11/22 05:41 AM |
| A (not very sensible) alternative: FMADD + FADD | Paul A. Clayton | 2013/11/22 09:19 AM |
| 3-TFlops-DGEMM | Sylvain Collange | 2013/11/24 03:37 AM |
| 3-TFlops-DGEMM | Michael S | 2013/11/24 07:06 AM |
| 3-TFlops-DGEMM | Sylvain Collange | 2013/11/24 10:28 AM |
| HPC guys score FLOPS non-obviously | Patrick Chase | 2013/11/23 03:58 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Paul Caheny | 2013/11/18 02:25 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Konrad Schwarz | 2013/11/19 01:24 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Amiba Gelos | 2013/11/19 08:36 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | David Kanter | 2013/11/20 10:52 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Linus Torvalds | 2013/11/21 03:12 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Amiba Gelos | 2013/11/21 06:14 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Patrick Chase | 2013/11/23 04:33 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Linus Torvalds | 2013/11/25 12:29 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Linus Torvalds | 2013/11/25 01:05 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Patrick Chase | 2013/11/25 01:22 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Linus Torvalds | 2013/11/26 11:11 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Eric | 2013/11/26 04:05 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Eric | 2013/11/26 04:15 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | none | 2013/11/26 04:33 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Eric | 2013/11/26 07:30 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Eric | 2013/11/26 07:34 PM |
| What is MCDRAM? | anon | 2013/11/26 09:58 PM |
| What is MCDRAM? | none | 2013/11/27 02:00 AM |
| What is MCDRAM? | Klimax | 2013/11/27 03:19 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Klimax | 2013/11/27 12:06 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Klimax | 2013/11/27 12:05 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | anon | 2013/11/26 06:53 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | none | 2013/11/26 07:20 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Michael S | 2013/11/26 09:06 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | none | 2013/11/26 10:18 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Eric Bron | 2013/11/26 02:21 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Eric Bron | 2013/11/26 02:27 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | none | 2013/11/26 03:26 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | anon | 2013/11/26 06:42 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | none | 2013/11/27 02:08 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | anon | 2013/11/27 02:50 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | none | 2013/11/27 02:58 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Michael S | 2013/11/27 02:25 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | anon | 2013/11/27 03:32 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Michael S | 2013/11/27 04:08 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Chung Leong | 2013/11/27 02:28 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Michael S | 2013/11/27 03:53 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Chung Leong | 2013/11/27 02:03 PM |
| BiG.LiTTLe for KNL? | Jeff K | 2013/11/22 07:17 AM |
| BiG.LiTTLe for KNL? | Patrick Chase | 2013/11/23 03:54 PM |
| BiG.LiTTLe for KNL? | Patrick Chase | 2013/11/23 04:01 PM |
| Transactional memory | Patrick Chase | 2013/11/23 03:37 PM |
| Transactional memory | Bhima | 2013/11/25 08:01 AM |
| Transactional memory | Patrick Chase | 2013/11/25 12:52 PM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Daniel | 2013/11/25 03:17 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Klimax | 2013/11/25 04:12 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | none | 2013/11/25 05:05 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | Klimax | 2013/11/25 05:45 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | none | 2013/11/25 05:55 AM |
| Knights Landing CPU Speculation | gmb | 2013/11/25 08:21 AM |