Knights Landing - time for obituary?

Article: Knights Landing Details
By: Kevin G (kevin.delete@this.cubitdesigns.com), August 1, 2018 7:26 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on July 31, 2018 9:24 pm wrote:
> Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on July 31, 2018 3:00 pm wrote:
> >
> > Select Intel® Xeon Phi™ Processors:
> > 7210, 7210F, 7230, 7230F, 7250, 7250F,7290, and 7290F,
> > PCN 116378-00, Product Discontinuance,
> > End of Life
> > https://qdms.intel.com/dm/i.aspx/9C54A9A7-BF37-4496-B268-BD2746EA54D3/PCN116378-00.pdf
> >
> > Barely lasted 2 years.
>
>
> If the processors would be able to reach the same percentage of the peak speed,
> then Xeon Phi would have 1/2 of the performance per watt of NVIDIA Volta while
> Xeon Platinum would have 1/3 of the performance per watt of NVIDIA Volta.
>
> (Off topic, while GPUs are without doubt the most efficient, the ratio 1/3, which was valid
> for the last several generations of Intel & NVIDIA is very far from the ridiculous ratios,
> such as 100, which were claimed in all the early propaganda papers about GPGPU.)

Both Intel and nVidia hit the power wall and process shrinks have slowed to a crawl. nVidia has take the rather extreme measure of going with a 815 mm^2 die plus the addition of HBM on an interposer to continue their performance scaling.

> Nevertheless, the very little information that I have seen about the real speed attainable by Xeon Phi,
> suggest that in fact the percentage of the peak speed reached by Xeon Phi is around 2/3 of the percentage
> reached by Xeon Platinum. Therefore the real performance per watt is about the same for both.

KNL was also released two years before the Xeon Platinums.

> Then the only advantage remaining for Xeon Phi is that, at the official prices, its performance
> per dollar is much better than for NVIDIA Volta and for Xeon Platinum or Gold.
>
> This is offset by the reports that claim that optimizing programs
> for Xeon Phi is much more difficult than for the alternatives.

Optimization costs are going to be incurred regardless of platform. KNL claim to fame was easy porting of code in an unoptimized state. So if the HPC installation was running x86 based code before, getting it up and running in an unoptimized state on KNL was trivial. That part of the story did happen in a few places from what I've read.

> Since Xeon Phi does not appear to have enough advantages over its competitors, there is no surprise
> in the end-of-life announcements and in the Intel roadmaps which show that the successors of Xeon
> Phi will be high-core-count MCM derivatives of the mainstream Xeon Scalable products.

There is still one advantage: memory capacity. Being able to attach 384 GB of DDR4 in addition to the 16 GB of HMC permits some rather large and local data sets per node. Leaked road maps point toward a Knights Landing refresh which is supposed to add 3D Xpoint DIMM support for even higher memory capacity. It is unclear if this refresh will see the light of day though.

Remote access of CPU from nVidia's recent GPUs is possible but incurs a performance hit due to latency.

> Still, it is not clear for me why this has ended so. There seems nothing wrong about the concept
> that a throughput-optimized processor should have a large number of dual-issue in-order cores with
> large SIMD units. This seems the obvious way to get high performance per watt and per dollar.
>
> The main problem with Xeon Phi, its difficulties in reaching high percentages
> of its peak speed, do not seem related with the general concept, but seem to
> have been caused by various implementation quirks of Knights Landing.

Xeon Platinums also have difficulties maintaining peak performance. L2cache bandwidth is the believed to be the bottleneck. The hardware is there for two AVX-512 operations per clock throughput but the L2 caches cannot keep up. The L1 cache has the bandwidth but at 32 KB there isn't much room. L3 cache has a relatively high latency to compound matters even more.

> At least this is what I have seen in the few published analyses
> of its microarchitecture, e.g. that from Agner Fog.
>
> Has anyone of you seen any papers which analyse the causes of inefficiency in Xeon Phi ?
>
> I believe that maybe the failure of Xeon Phi was caused by its design
> by a B team and by the rush to market of an immature implementation.

The successor to Knights Landing, Knights Hill was tied to the 10 nm process. Some IPC improvements were to be incorporated with the Goldmont+ core design seen in some Atoms. Bandwidth and capacity increases for on package memory was also promised. No memory type was specified but Intel was the main backer behind HMC and it doesn't appear that HMC2 is ready for mass production. It is conceptually possible that another reason for Knights Hill death came from the memory side of things.

After Knights Hill it would have made sense for Intel to migrate to a chiplet based designs using EMIB to scale up core counts to insane levels. HPC is one of the few areas where such manufacturing costs could be reasonably absorbed. This would have also side stepped the current yield issues on 10 nm as it is far easier to harvest smaller chiplet sized dies than huge monoliths.

nVidia last year released a paper on their own chiplet research.

> I think that it is bad that the failure of Xeon Phi has tainted this idea. For me, the ideal computer
> would be a 2-socket machine, where one socket would have a 2-core or 4-core 5 GHz OOOE processor, but
> the other socket would have very-high-core-count throughput-optimized processor, similar to Xeon Phi.
>
> This arrangement would avoid the problems which appear when you mix low-latency cores with high-throughput
> cores in a single socket, when the extra heat caused by AVX-256 or AVX-512 force the use of a lower
> clock frequency, which slows down the threads where single-thread performance is important.

Ice Lake and one of the Knights chips were supposed to sync in terms of ISA extensions, or be trivially close. The presumption was that Intel could release a heterogenous design. while they haven't said anything officially, it would be foolish to think that they haven't toyed with the concept internally.
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                                          Occam's razorAmiba Gelos2014/01/09 02:43 AM
                                            Occam's razorEric Bron2014/01/09 03:02 AM
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                                      Occam's razorNicolas Capens2014/01/10 02:40 PM
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                              Knights Landing L/S bandwidthMichael S2014/01/08 10:23 AM
                            Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNicolas Capens2014/01/08 01:02 PM
                              Knights Landing L/S bandwidthMichael S2014/01/08 01:29 PM
                                Knights Landing L/S bandwidthEric Bron2014/01/08 01:54 PM
                                  Knights Landing L/S bandwidthMichael S2014/01/08 02:00 PM
                                    Knights Landing L/S bandwidthEric Bron2014/01/08 02:13 PM
                                      Knights Landing L/S bandwidthMichael S2014/01/08 02:28 PM
                                        Knights Landing L/S bandwidthEric Bron2014/01/08 02:32 PM
                                          Knights Landing L/S bandwidthMichael S2014/01/08 02:40 PM
                                            Knights Landing L/S bandwidthEric Bron2014/01/08 02:51 PM
                                              Knights Landing L/S bandwidthMichael S2014/01/09 11:18 AM
                          Knights Landing L/S bandwidthPatrick Chase2014/01/12 09:03 PM
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                              Also page/line splits?anon2014/01/13 12:44 AM
                                Also page/line splits?none2014/01/13 02:09 AM
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                            Knights Landing L/S bandwidthanon2014/01/13 12:41 AM
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                                      Register file read port requirementsMichael S2014/01/11 08:57 AM
                                        Register file read port requirementsEric Bron2014/01/11 10:16 AM
                                          Register file read port requirementsMichael S2014/01/11 10:46 AM
                                            Register file read port requirementsEric Bron2014/01/11 11:12 AM
                                              Register file read port requirementsMichael S2014/01/11 11:36 AM
                                                Register file read port requirementsEric Bron2014/01/11 11:51 AM
                                              Register file read port requirementsPatrick Chase2014/01/13 01:27 PM
                                                Register file read port requirementsEric Bron2014/01/13 03:24 PM
                                                  Register file read port requirementsPatrick Chase2014/01/13 05:02 PM
                                                    Register file read port requirementsEric Bron2014/01/14 03:50 AM
                                                      Register file read port requirementsMichael S2014/01/14 10:36 AM
                                                        Register file read port requirementsEric Bron nli2014/01/14 12:04 PM
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                                              Register file read port requirementsMichael S2014/01/15 03:27 AM
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                  Knights Landing L/S bandwidthanon2014/01/06 12:07 AM
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                      Knights Landing L/S bandwidthanon2014/01/06 03:01 AM
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                              Knights Landing L/S bandwidthanon2014/01/06 05:44 AM
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                                              KNC code generator with EVEX back-end?Exophase2014/01/08 09:00 AM
                                                KNC code generator with EVEX back-end?Ricardo B2014/01/08 10:39 AM
                                                  KNC code generator with EVEX back-end?Eric Bron2014/01/08 11:15 AM
                                                    KNC code generator with EVEX back-end?Exophase2014/01/08 12:17 PM
                                                      KNC code generator with EVEX back-end?Ricardo B2014/01/08 01:06 PM
                                                        KNC code generator with EVEX back-end?Exophase2014/01/08 01:24 PM
                                                        KNC code generator with EVEX back-end?Eric Bron2014/01/08 01:38 PM
                                                    KNC code generator with EVEX back-end?Michael S2014/01/08 12:54 PM
                                              KNC code generator with EVEX back-end?Eric Bron2014/01/08 09:25 AM
                                              KNC code generator with EVEX back-end?Eric Bron2014/01/08 09:35 AM
                                                KNC code generator with EVEX back-end?Michael S2014/01/08 10:07 AM
                                                  KNC code generator with EVEX back-end?Eric Bron2014/01/08 10:24 AM
                                                    KNC code generator with EVEX back-end?Michael S2014/01/08 10:43 AM
                                                      KNC code generator with EVEX back-end?Eric Bron2014/01/08 12:23 PM
                                              KNC code generator with EVEX back-end?Eric Bron2014/01/08 09:43 AM
                                          AVX2 code much different than AVX-512Eric Bron2014/01/08 07:52 AM
                                            evil questionhobold2014/01/08 09:22 AM
                                              evil questionEric Bron2014/01/08 09:27 AM
                                                evil questionhobold2014/01/08 01:33 PM
                                                  evil questionMichael S2014/01/08 01:37 PM
                                                    stupid question (was: evil question)hobold2014/01/09 04:41 AM
                                                      stupid question (was: evil question)Eric Bron2014/01/09 04:52 AM
                                                        stupid question (was: evil question)Michael S2014/01/09 07:00 AM
                                                          stupid question (was: evil question)Michael S2014/01/09 07:12 AM
                                                            stupid question (was: evil question)Eric Bron2014/01/09 09:47 AM
                                                              stupid question (was: evil question)Michael S2014/01/09 10:48 AM
                                                                more decisive (hopefully) test caseMichael S2014/01/09 11:01 AM
                                                                  more decisive (hopefully) test caseEric Bron2014/01/09 11:08 AM
                                                                    more decisive (hopefully) test caseMichael S2014/01/09 11:24 AM
                                                                      more decisive (hopefully) test caseEric Bron2014/01/09 11:27 AM
                                                                        more decisive (hopefully) test caseMichael S2014/01/09 11:33 AM
                                                                  AVX2Eric Bron2014/01/09 11:14 AM
                                                                    AVX2Michael S2014/01/09 11:30 AM
                                                                      AVX2Eric Bron2014/01/09 11:40 AM
                                                                  another tryMichael S2014/01/09 02:02 PM
                                                                    another tryEric Bron2014/01/09 02:33 PM
                                                                      another tryMichael S2014/01/09 03:20 PM
                                                                      another try - ignore misformated mess aboveMichael S2014/01/09 03:24 PM
                                                                        another try - ignore misformated mess aboveGabriele Svelto2014/01/10 12:01 AM
                                                                          another try - ignore misformated mess aboveEric Bron2014/01/10 02:05 AM
                                                                            another try - ignore misformated mess aboveMichael S2014/01/11 09:23 AM
                                                                              another try - ignore misformated mess aboveEric Bron2014/01/11 10:08 AM
                                                                                another try - ignore misformated mess aboveMichael S2014/01/11 11:09 AM
                                                                                  another try - ignore misformated mess aboveMichael S2014/01/11 11:12 AM
                                                                                    another try - ignore misformated mess aboveEric Bron2014/01/11 11:24 AM
                                                                                      another try - ignore misformated mess aboveMichael S2014/01/11 12:24 PM
                                                                                        another try - ignore misformated mess aboveEric Bron2014/01/11 01:11 PM
                                                                                          another try - ignore misformated mess aboveMichael S2014/01/11 01:18 PM
                                                                                            another try - ignore misformated mess aboveEric Bron2014/01/11 01:27 PM
                                                                                              another try - ignore misformated mess aboveMichael S2014/01/11 01:29 PM
                                                                                                another try - ignore misformated mess aboveEric Bron2014/01/11 01:46 PM
                                                                                                  another try - ignore misformated mess aboveEric Bron2014/01/11 01:46 PM
                                                                                                  another try - ignore misformated mess aboveMichael S2014/01/11 02:28 PM
                                                                                        another try - ignore misformated mess aboveEric Bron2014/01/11 01:17 PM
                                                                                          another try - ignore misformated mess aboveMichael S2014/01/11 01:24 PM
                                                                    KNC versionMichael S2014/01/11 04:19 PM
                                                                      KNC versionEric Bron nli2014/01/12 01:59 AM
                                                                        KNC versionGabriele Svelto2014/01/12 08:06 AM
                                                  evil questionEric Bron2014/01/08 01:41 PM
              Knights Landing L/S bandwidthPatrick Chase2014/01/05 10:20 PM
                Knights Landing L/S bandwidthEric Bron2014/01/06 01:45 AM
                  Knights Landing L/S bandwidthanon2014/01/06 03:12 AM
                    Knights Landing L/S bandwidthMichael S2014/01/06 03:17 AM
                      Knights Landing L/S bandwidthanon2014/01/06 04:20 AM
          Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNicolas Capens2014/01/04 04:34 PM
            Knights Landing L/S bandwidthEric Bron2014/01/04 04:44 PM
              Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNicolas Capens2014/01/05 11:25 AM
                Knights Landing L/S bandwidthEric Bron2014/01/05 12:50 PM
                  Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNicolas Capens2014/01/05 02:34 PM
                    Might even help with gatherNicolas Capens2014/01/05 02:40 PM
                      What is an L0 cache?David Kanter2014/01/05 09:44 PM
                        What is an L0 cache?anon2014/01/06 04:57 AM
                          What is an L0 cache?Nicolas Capens2014/01/06 11:57 AM
                            What is an L0 cache?anon2014/01/06 01:18 PM
    Knights Landing L/S bandwidthDavid Kanter2014/01/04 09:58 AM
      Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNicolas Capens2014/01/04 03:24 PM
        Knights Landing L/S bandwidthEric Bron2014/01/04 03:46 PM
          Knights Landing L/S bandwidthKonrad Schwarz2014/01/07 11:48 PM
            Knights Landing L/S bandwidthMichael S2014/01/08 01:45 AM
        Knights Landing L/S bandwidthDavid Kanter2014/01/05 12:44 AM
          Knights Landing L/S bandwidthEric Bron2014/01/05 02:55 AM
          Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNicolas Capens2014/01/05 11:18 AM
            Knights Landing L/S bandwidthMaynard Handley2014/01/05 10:33 PM
              Knights Landing L/S bandwidthEric Bron2014/01/06 03:02 AM
                Knights Landing L/S bandwidthMichael S2014/01/06 03:23 AM
                  Knights Landing L/S bandwidthEric Bron2014/01/06 03:35 AM
                    Knights Landing L/S bandwidthMichael S2014/01/06 04:20 AM
                      Knights Landing L/S bandwidthMichael S2014/01/06 04:32 AM
                      Knights Landing L/S bandwidthEric Bron2014/01/06 04:36 AM
                        Knights Landing L/S bandwidthMichael S2014/01/06 05:00 AM
                          Knights Landing L/S bandwidthEric Bron2014/01/06 05:07 AM
                          Knights Landing L/S bandwidthEric Bron2014/01/06 05:14 AM
                            editsEric Bron2014/01/06 05:22 AM
                              optimized versionEric Bron2014/01/06 05:35 AM
                                yet more optimized versionEric Bron2014/01/06 05:42 AM
                                  latest version for todayEric Bron2014/01/06 05:51 AM
                                    Probably just L2 bandwith limitedNicolas Capens2014/01/06 10:48 AM
                                  yet more optimized versionMaynard Handley2014/01/06 05:54 PM
                                optimized versionMaynard Handley2014/01/06 05:52 PM
                                  optimized versionMichael S2014/01/07 09:42 AM
                                    optimized versionNicolas Capens2014/01/07 11:36 AM
                                      optimized versionMichael S2014/01/07 02:41 PM
                                        optimized versionNicolas Capens2014/01/07 09:52 PM
                                          optimized versionMichael S2014/01/08 01:10 AM
                                    optimized versionEric Bron2014/01/07 01:34 PM
                                      optimized versionMichael S2014/01/07 02:18 PM
                                        optimized versionEric Bron2014/01/07 02:30 PM
                                          optimized versionEric Bron2014/01/07 02:33 PM
                                            optimized versionMichael S2014/01/07 02:57 PM
                                    optimized versionMaynard Handley2014/01/07 05:50 PM
                                      optimized versionMichael S2014/01/08 01:39 AM
                Knights Landing L/S bandwidthMaynard Handley2014/01/06 05:47 PM
              Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNicolas Capens2014/01/06 08:18 AM
                Knights Landing L/S bandwidthMaynard Handley2014/01/06 05:56 PM
                  Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNicolas Capens2014/01/07 11:18 AM
        Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNoSpammer2014/01/05 12:15 PM
          Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNicolas Capens2014/01/05 02:06 PM
            Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNoSpammer2014/01/06 03:20 AM
              Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNicolas Capens2014/01/06 10:54 AM
                Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNoSpammer2014/01/06 12:24 PM
                  Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNicolas Capens2014/01/06 08:15 PM
                    Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNoSpammer2014/01/07 02:58 AM
                      Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNicolas Capens2014/01/07 02:18 PM
                        Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNoSpammer2014/01/08 12:38 PM
                          Knights Landing L/S bandwidthNicolas Capens2014/01/08 10:14 PM
  AVX512F questionMichael S2014/01/06 09:18 AM
    AVX512F questionNicolas Capens2014/01/06 11:01 AM
  Knights Landing - time for obituary?Michael S2018/07/31 02:00 PM
    Knights Landing - time for obituary?Adrian2018/07/31 08:24 PM
      Knights Landing - time for obituary?SoftwareEngineer2018/08/01 01:15 AM
        auto-vectorization is a dead endMichael S2018/08/01 02:48 AM
          Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endMark Roulo2018/08/01 10:07 AM
            Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endPassing Through2018/08/01 12:35 PM
              Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endDavid Kanter2018/08/01 09:44 PM
                Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endPassing Through2018/08/02 12:51 AM
            Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endSoftwareEngineer2018/08/02 12:19 AM
              Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endMark Roulo2018/08/02 08:50 AM
                Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endMichael S2018/08/02 11:11 AM
                  Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endj2018/08/02 10:37 PM
                    Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endMichael S2018/08/03 02:50 AM
                      Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endrwessel2018/08/03 10:06 PM
                  Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endRicardo B2018/08/03 03:20 AM
                    Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endMichael S2018/08/03 04:37 AM
                      Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endRicardo B2018/08/03 10:22 AM
            Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endTravis2018/08/03 06:58 PM
              Potential way to autovectorization in the future. Jouni Osmala2018/08/03 09:22 PM
                Potential way to autovectorization in the future. Jukka Larja2018/08/04 03:03 AM
                  Potential way to autovectorization in the future. Passing Through2018/08/04 05:47 AM
                Potential way to autovectorization in the future. Travis2018/08/04 12:50 PM
                  Potential way to autovectorization in the future. Michael S2018/08/04 01:33 PM
                    Potential way to autovectorization in the future. Travis2018/08/04 01:48 PM
                    Potential way to autovectorization in the future. Passing Through2018/08/04 01:58 PM
                  Skylake server/client AVX PRF speculationJeff S.2018/08/04 04:42 PM
                    Skylake server/client AVX PRF speculationanonymou52018/08/04 05:21 PM
                      Skylake server/client AVX PRF speculationJeff S.2018/08/04 05:38 PM
                        Skylake server/client AVX PRF speculationanonymou52018/08/04 06:45 PM
                          Skylake server/client AVX PRF speculationJeff S.2018/08/04 07:08 PM
                            Skylake server/client AVX PRF speculationanonymou52018/08/04 07:18 PM
                              Skylake server/client AVX PRF speculationNomad2018/08/05 10:10 PM
                                Skylake server/client AVX PRF speculationanonymou52018/08/06 11:14 AM
                                Skylake server/client AVX PRF speculationTravis2018/08/06 07:43 PM
                            Skylake server/client AVX PRF speculationTravis2018/08/06 07:39 PM
              Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endBrett2018/08/04 12:55 PM
                Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endTravis2018/08/04 01:38 PM
                  Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endPassing Through2018/08/04 02:00 PM
                    New record for shortest post by Ireland - AI crashed? (NT)Travis2018/08/04 02:34 PM
                      New record for shortest post by Ireland - AI crashed?Passing Through2018/08/04 03:12 PM
                        New record for shortest post by Ireland - AI crashed?anonymou52018/08/04 05:00 PM
                          New record for shortest post by Ireland - AI crashed?Brett2018/08/04 05:40 PM
                            New record for shortest post by Ireland - AI crashed?anonymou52018/08/04 06:38 PM
                  Auto-vectorization of random C is a dead endnoko2018/08/04 08:46 PM
        The story of ispc (a 12 entry blog series)Simon Farnsworth2018/08/01 02:50 AM
          the 1st link is empty (NT)Michael S2018/08/01 03:05 AM
            the 1st link is emptySimon Farnsworth2018/08/01 05:42 AM
          Interesting read, thanks! (NT)SoftwareEngineer2018/08/01 05:57 AM
          Amazing readLaurent2018/08/01 08:00 AM
            Amazing readPassing Through2018/08/01 12:13 PM
              Amazing readDoug S2018/08/01 01:30 PM
                Amazing readPassing Through2018/08/01 01:49 PM
          ISPC vs OpenCL?j2018/08/02 10:41 PM
            ISPC vs OpenCL?coppcie2018/08/03 02:55 AM
            ISPC vs OpenCL?Passing Through2018/08/03 03:07 AM
              Go awayForum Reader2018/08/03 07:11 AM
              ISPC vs OpenCL?Gian-Carlo Pascutto2018/09/11 05:50 AM
            ISPC vs OpenCL?SoftwareEngineer2018/08/03 03:18 AM
        Knights Landing - time for obituary?Kevin G2018/08/01 06:14 AM
          Knights Landing - time for obituary?SoftwareEngineer2018/08/01 06:29 AM
        Knights Landing - time for obituary?Passing Through2018/08/01 06:38 AM
          Knights Landing - time for obituary?Eric Bron2018/08/02 05:57 AM
            Knights Landing - time for obituary?Passing Through2018/08/02 11:29 AM
              Knights Landing - time for obituary?Eric Bron2018/08/02 12:49 PM
                Knights Landing - time for obituary?Passing Through2018/08/02 01:17 PM
          chess algorithms vs, low level optimizationsEric Bron2018/08/02 06:15 AM
            AlphaZero vs StockfishMichael S2018/08/02 06:55 AM
              AlphaZero vs StockfishEric Bron2018/08/02 07:24 AM
                AlphaZero vs StockfishMichael S2018/08/02 08:01 AM
                  AlphaZero vs StockfishEric Bron2018/08/02 08:11 AM
                  Leela 4th vs all othersEric Bron nli2018/09/11 02:40 AM
              AlphaZero vs StockfishGian-Carlo Pascutto2018/09/11 05:31 AM
                AlphaZero vs StockfishEric Bron2018/09/11 08:26 AM
                  AlphaZero vs StockfishEric Bron2018/09/11 08:58 AM
                    AlphaZero vs StockfishPer Hesselgren2018/12/31 09:04 AM
                Leela Chess ZeroPer Hesselgren2018/12/31 11:00 AM
              AlphaZero vs Stockfish (on Xeon)Per Hesselgren2018/12/31 08:59 AM
        C/C++ and vector/parallel/distributedRichardC2018/08/02 04:50 AM
      Knights Landing - time for obituary?Passing Through2018/08/01 06:52 AM
        Knights Landing - time for obituary?Kevin G2018/08/01 01:03 PM
          Knights Landing - time for obituary?Passing Through2018/08/01 01:33 PM
      Knights Landing - time for obituary?Kevin G2018/08/01 07:26 AM
        Knights Landing - time for obituary?Kevin G2018/08/01 07:26 AM
        Knights Landing - time for obituary?juanrga2018/08/01 01:26 PM
          Knights Landing - time for obituary?hobel2018/08/02 04:46 AM
    Knights Landing - time for obituary?juanrga2018/07/31 10:25 PM
      Right, time for obituary for whole LRB lineageAM2018/08/02 10:46 AM
        Right, time for obituary for whole LRB lineageAdrian2018/08/02 10:46 PM
          LRBNI, AVX512, etc...Michael S2018/08/03 04:23 AM
        Right, time for obituary for whole LRB lineagejuanrga2018/08/03 03:11 AM
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