juanrga (nospam.delete@this.juanrga.com) on August 16, 2014 4:34 am wrote:
> David Kanter (dkanter.delete@this.realworldtech.com) on August 15, 2014 6:54 pm wrote:
> > Alexko (lexoka.delete@this.gmail.com) on August 15, 2014 5:43 pm wrote:
> > > David Kanter (dkanter.delete@this.realworldtech.com) on August 15, 2014 3:01 pm wrote:
> > > > juanrga (nospam.delete@this.juanrga.com) on August 15, 2014 11:39 am wrote:
> > > > > David Kanter (dkanter.delete@this.realworldtech.com) on August 15, 2014 9:41 am wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I also am skeptical that anyone can match Intel in performance while trailing behind by a node. To do that,
> > > > > > it is necessary to offer a very different product with a
> > > > > > different system architecture. E.g., target workloads
> > > > > > where cache does not help and simply slap down more memory controllers and cores (hint: that's a GPU!).
> > > >
> > > > > The ISA advantage will be greatly reduced in the top-end
> > > > > side of the performance spectrum, but will not vanish.
> > > > > Keller mentioned during Core Day conference that his K12
> > > > > core will have a "bigger engine" than its x86 sister
> > > > > thanks to the advantages of ARMv8 over x86-64, which allows to spend more transistors on compute.
> > > >
> > > > I happen to know the differences between those two designs. I'm not really sure it's
> > > > going to translate into a significant performance delta. My guess is maybe 10%.
> > >
> > > Interesting! Are you planning on writing an article on K12 and/or its x86 variant?
> >
> > Right now there aren't really sufficient details. I look forward
> > to when AMD will disclose a bit more about the architectures.
> >
> > David
>
>
> So far as I know AMD is discussing to disclose details of the new arch sometime in the next year.
> Meanwhile could you share some basic details, such as if the core will be big and fast (Haswell-like)
> or smaller and efficient? CMP or CMT? Is true that three pipes are shared each two cores?

I can't really share anything unfortunately. However, I can say that they will be ditching Bulldozer and its lineage.

David