By: juanrga (nospam.delete@this.juanrga.com), August 17, 2014 1:43 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Doug S (foo.delete@this.bar.bar) on August 16, 2014 8:06 pm wrote:
> juanrga (nospam.delete@this.juanrga.com) on August 16, 2014 12:45 pm wrote:
> > Only the low-volume parts will do. Broadwell-K, -E, and -EP are delayed to Q4 2015.
>
>
> Intel's server parts always follow later, first the two way server CPUs, then
> the 4+ way server CPUs. They have much longer validation cycles. Following
> the mobile parts by a year is not a "delay", it has always been that way.
>
> Broadwell desktop parts are another matter. A year or two ago there were rumors that Intel
> would not offer any socketed Broadwell parts. Everyone became worried that Intel CPUs
> would be soldered into future desktops like they already are in laptops, and it would be
> the end of upgradability, and cause Intel to lose the enthusiast market to AMD.
>
> What if that rumor was true, but true because Intel never planned to make any Broadwell desktop parts? After
> all, what's the point of making them at the end of next year? Shouldn't their next tock hit by then? Maybe
> there never will be any Broadwell desktop parts, but instead they'll sell Skylake desktop parts?
>
> The PC market itself has been shrinking the last few years (there's a recent blip upward probably connected
> with XP replacement, but it won't last) and the desktop market in particular has been shrinking as the PC market
> had already been shifting away from desktops toward laptops, and there's little reason to believe that will
> change. Maybe Intel has reached the point where they don't think it is worth having a new line of desktop CPUs
> every year, and will only sell the "tocks" and not the "ticks" on the desktop in the future? It isn't like
> AMD is going to be able to steal market share from them if they do this, and it'll cut Intel's costs.
It is possible that Intel finally abandons Broadwell-K. Apparently AMD has abandoned Carrizo desktop as well.
> juanrga (nospam.delete@this.juanrga.com) on August 16, 2014 12:45 pm wrote:
> > Only the low-volume parts will do. Broadwell-K, -E, and -EP are delayed to Q4 2015.
>
>
> Intel's server parts always follow later, first the two way server CPUs, then
> the 4+ way server CPUs. They have much longer validation cycles. Following
> the mobile parts by a year is not a "delay", it has always been that way.
>
> Broadwell desktop parts are another matter. A year or two ago there were rumors that Intel
> would not offer any socketed Broadwell parts. Everyone became worried that Intel CPUs
> would be soldered into future desktops like they already are in laptops, and it would be
> the end of upgradability, and cause Intel to lose the enthusiast market to AMD.
>
> What if that rumor was true, but true because Intel never planned to make any Broadwell desktop parts? After
> all, what's the point of making them at the end of next year? Shouldn't their next tock hit by then? Maybe
> there never will be any Broadwell desktop parts, but instead they'll sell Skylake desktop parts?
>
> The PC market itself has been shrinking the last few years (there's a recent blip upward probably connected
> with XP replacement, but it won't last) and the desktop market in particular has been shrinking as the PC market
> had already been shifting away from desktops toward laptops, and there's little reason to believe that will
> change. Maybe Intel has reached the point where they don't think it is worth having a new line of desktop CPUs
> every year, and will only sell the "tocks" and not the "ticks" on the desktop in the future? It isn't like
> AMD is going to be able to steal market share from them if they do this, and it'll cut Intel's costs.
It is possible that Intel finally abandons Broadwell-K. Apparently AMD has abandoned Carrizo desktop as well.