By: Daniel B (fejenagy.delete@this.gmail.com), August 21, 2014 4:41 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
juanrga (nospam.delete@this.juanrga.com) on August 21, 2014 2:15 am wrote:
> As showed before, Intel traditional process advantage is gone:
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> Thus, ARM servers (including K12 from AMD) will be only half node from Intel, reducing the gap.
> And ARM has a clear ISA advantage over x86 ISA. This is the reason why AMD is embracing ARM servers
> and claiming that will be a revolution similar to the introduction of 64bit Opterons.
>
> It was also stated before, that TSMC has increased finances up to Intel level. Moreover,
> TSMC has just broken record with revenues reaching NT$61.887 billion and it is ordering machinery
> equipment worth T$1.2 billion. It is expected by everyone (including Intel) that TSMC achieves
> parity at 10nm node, both in some key node parameters and in schedule.
>
> Also it was mentioned lots of times before, that the x86 tax is not only in the decoder.
One has to give you credit for persistence.
However, regardless of who is wrong or right, your tactics of repeating the same statements over and over again and of ignoring counter arguments and evidence presented by others is not just impolite by any standards. It is non-constructive if not idiotic. The arguments has already been made on both sides, so show some fucking respect.
I'm unsure what your motivation might be for spending so much energy on this topic as a seemingly anonymous user. But may I suggest your efforts are futile, unless your aim is to litter this forum with noise and nonsense. This forum is mostly read by semicon and systems industry professionals who actually know. You are not adding anything to the understanding of the topic - hoarding news pieces you cannot even comprehend is of no value.
So pretty please, with sugar on top, just stop it, or fuck off. I'd like to read something new and interesting here, and I'm willing to bet others too.
> As showed before, Intel traditional process advantage is gone:
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- AMD 32nm SOI Opteron did fight 22nm FF Xeons.
- ARM 28nm PLN phone-class processors is fighting 22nm FF Atoms.
- ARM 16nm FF server-class processors will fight 14nm FF BW/SL Xeons.
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> Thus, ARM servers (including K12 from AMD) will be only half node from Intel, reducing the gap.
> And ARM has a clear ISA advantage over x86 ISA. This is the reason why AMD is embracing ARM servers
> and claiming that will be a revolution similar to the introduction of 64bit Opterons.
>
> It was also stated before, that TSMC has increased finances up to Intel level. Moreover,
> TSMC has just broken record with revenues reaching NT$61.887 billion and it is ordering machinery
> equipment worth T$1.2 billion. It is expected by everyone (including Intel) that TSMC achieves
> parity at 10nm node, both in some key node parameters and in schedule.
>
> Also it was mentioned lots of times before, that the x86 tax is not only in the decoder.
One has to give you credit for persistence.
However, regardless of who is wrong or right, your tactics of repeating the same statements over and over again and of ignoring counter arguments and evidence presented by others is not just impolite by any standards. It is non-constructive if not idiotic. The arguments has already been made on both sides, so show some fucking respect.
I'm unsure what your motivation might be for spending so much energy on this topic as a seemingly anonymous user. But may I suggest your efforts are futile, unless your aim is to litter this forum with noise and nonsense. This forum is mostly read by semicon and systems industry professionals who actually know. You are not adding anything to the understanding of the topic - hoarding news pieces you cannot even comprehend is of no value.
So pretty please, with sugar on top, just stop it, or fuck off. I'd like to read something new and interesting here, and I'm willing to bet others too.
