juanrga (nospam.delete@this.juanrga.com) on August 25, 2014 3:11 pm wrote:
> Klimax (danklima.delete@this.gmail.com) on August 25, 2014 2:14 pm wrote:
> > juanrga (nospam.delete@this.juanrga.com) on August 25, 2014 12:29 pm wrote:
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> > > And TSMC has accelerated roadmap and will start 16nm volume production in 1Q15:
> > >
> > > Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC) will advance volume production on its 16nm
> > > process to the first quarter of 2015 with monthly output of 50,000 wafers in order to meet demand
> > > for Apple's A9 processors, the Chinese-language Economic Daily News (EDN) has reported.
> > >
> > > TSMC originally planned to kicked off 16nm volume production in second-quarter 2015.
> > > TSMC faces strong competition from Samsung Electronics' foundry business.
> > >
> > > http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20140825PB201.html
> > >
> > > Broadwell-EP @14nm vs ARM server-class @16nm will be an interesting figth to watch.
> >
> > Only when against all odds TSMC actually delivers. So far their track record is supremely abysmal. So far
> > there is high probability ARM server chips on that node will go against later Intel chips, not Broadwell.
> > Also it seems that Intel fitted into their 14nm more changes then so far foundries to their "16nm".
>
> Broadwell-EP is scheduled for Q3 2015. Moreover, Skylake will use same node.
>
> Intel 14nm will be only about half-node ahead of TSMC 16nm. The gap has reduced.
They will likely e against that Skylake.
Half-node? They are not yet even fully on "20nm". (one baseband modem and only limited availability) And it doesn't look like they have even similar advantages on 16nm as Intel gets from 14nm. (Under discussion here)

So far there are no sings of actually catching up with Intel any where else but slides...