Soft Machines Inventions

By: Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org), October 29, 2014 10:01 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
ook (ook.delete@this.oook.com) on October 29, 2014 7:58 am wrote:
> juanrga (nospam.delete@this.juanrga.com) on October 29, 2014 4:49 am wrote:
> > On absolute terms the 4-cluster system was about 2 times faster than the 1-cluster
> > system which is just the expected single-thread gain for SpMT-like approaches
> > Perf ~ sqrt(N)
>
> As a first approximations that is about right.
> For low N scaling is a bit better, for large N it is worse.
> IOW, in Big O notation the statement is false.
>
> > Of course, this square law doesn't apply when two threads are running
> > on the 4-cluster system then the performance would be ~3x faster.
>
> True since here you get 2x the ~sqrt(2) speedup.
>
> > During conference SoftMachines wrote on one of the slides:
>
• OoO complexity increases quadratically with machine width
> • VISC complexity increases linearly with number of virtual cores"

>
> Here you are mistaken.
> OoO complexity does NOT scale quadratically if clustering is used.
> I don't know any wide (>=6) OoO that does not cluster. Please give an example if you happen know one.
>
> > I think they are taking the more favorable case of multithreaded applications running on the multicore,
> > but in single thread the complexity will be still less than quadratic one, because several critical
> > sections --registers, schedulers, bypass...--- are partitioned among clusters. The front-end will
> > remain complex but even assuming that it scales quadratically with issue wide, the overall complexity
> > of the whole CPU will be less than for traditional monolithic superscalar/OoO.
>
> I still can't see an improvement over clustered OoO.
> Your monolithic strawman does not exist.
>
>
> > This is the kind of future that I have been envisioning and
> > posted here: manycores with lots of smaller/simpler
> > power-optimized cores that can join/fuse to run a single thread if needed, but otherwise run in multithread
> > mode. I like to see that Linley Gwennap at least admit this kind of future is possible.
>
> SMT does that already. Very power efficient when you throw enough
> threads at it. But also high ST performance if needed.
>
> We agree that there must be a way to do computation more efficiently and more parallel.
> I believe that more complexity must move into the software (namely compiler). But that's
> a HW guy statement who's not very familiar with the complexities of compiler design.
>

Let's go back to basics.
- OoO tries to extract ILP from a constrained slice of the app, about 50 to 100 instructions in length. This is a hard problem --- it requires scanning the entire window of possibilities every cycle.
- OoO can't really cope with the memory wall because, after 200 or so instructions, you've used up all your physical registers and thus all your intermediate storage state that's there to cope with incorrect speculation

Can these issues be improved? Ideas have been proposed, both on the latency-sensitive side and on the throughput sensitive side.
Coping with the first problem can be done by moving all instructions that depend on a memory miss (and their dependent storage) off to the side, so that your window of pending instructions doesn't grow indefinitely. The GPU guys can do the same sort of thing by using two level scheduling, where warps waiting on memory are shunted aside and active scheduling only considers a small set of 8 or so warps.

Coping with the second problem is tougher. You can invoke multi-level register sets to cope with the register storage; the hard part is dealing with the store queues. Nevertheless people have come up with ideas for this. And you can imagine versions of the solution that I have not seen published but which seem plausible if you're willing to spend transistors -- for example just have 3 coherent "CPUlets", drive one until it's waiting on RAM, then switch to the second, then to the third. Assume coherence (at cache and storage queue level) will take care of addresses between the CPUs. You've now effectively tripled your storage queue and register space and so the distance you can go once you hit a cache miss. You do want a smart front end to steer instructions to the appropriate CPUlet, and a smart completion/writeback back-end that weaves together completions across all CPUlets.

Point is, I don't see what they are claiming as utterly impossible. It probably IS the case that they can't drive this system at 4GHz, but they're not claiming they can. It probably IS also the case that there you can invent loads that won't do well (basically anything that consists of a stream of dependent instructions that rarely misses to RAM). But one can also imagine a set of loads (matching the real world) where they can actually do very well, basically by providing an implementation of a KIP and using the win you get from using memory downtime effectively to make up for the loss from frequency, and coming out ahead on energy.
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