By: abraidwood (alistair_braidwood.delete@this.yahoo.co.uk), April 29, 2015 10:27 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
rwessel (robertwessel.delete@this.yahoo.com) on April 29, 2015 11:02 am wrote:
> Pierre (Boutoukoat.delete@this.yahoo.fr) on April 29, 2015 4:38 am wrote:
> > >
> > > In layman's terms ... how much faster does the final device go?
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> > Moore's law is not about speed, it is about #transistors vs. costs. The manufacturer
> > going from 20 to 10 nm will be able to store 4 times more processors per wafer,
> > or 4 times more transistor per processor, at ~identical~ costs.
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> Costs have not been decreasing at the historical rate. Things like multi-patterning are driving those up.
Am just thinking out loud and am very hungry & maybe not making sense... but...
Faster could have a bearing on cost though - if you made cores that ran 4x faster for the same power, could you have 4x fewer? I know most of the area is not cpu cores, but there are a lot of gpu 'cores' on modern chips and if you could make them substantially faster per unit, then you could reduce area & cost?
I know that graphics is easily parallel and a design with many slower, lower powered gpu 'cores' has better power characteristics than one with fewer faster, more power hungry ones,
> Pierre (Boutoukoat.delete@this.yahoo.fr) on April 29, 2015 4:38 am wrote:
> > >
> > > In layman's terms ... how much faster does the final device go?
> > >
> >
> > Moore's law is not about speed, it is about #transistors vs. costs. The manufacturer
> > going from 20 to 10 nm will be able to store 4 times more processors per wafer,
> > or 4 times more transistor per processor, at ~identical~ costs.
>
>
> Costs have not been decreasing at the historical rate. Things like multi-patterning are driving those up.
Am just thinking out loud and am very hungry & maybe not making sense... but...
Faster could have a bearing on cost though - if you made cores that ran 4x faster for the same power, could you have 4x fewer? I know most of the area is not cpu cores, but there are a lot of gpu 'cores' on modern chips and if you could make them substantially faster per unit, then you could reduce area & cost?
I know that graphics is easily parallel and a design with many slower, lower powered gpu 'cores' has better power characteristics than one with fewer faster, more power hungry ones,