By: Alberto (git.delete@this.git.it), July 11, 2015 1:59 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
juanrga (nospam.delete@this.juanrga.com) on July 9, 2015 12:06 am wrote:
> Matt (matt.delete@this.nospam.com) on July 8, 2015 4:20 pm wrote:
> > I hope David Kanter's predictions are correct but Intel's
> > last shrink from 22nm to 14nm does not give any reason
> > for optimism. You can see how much of an improvement Intel's
> > 14nm Broadwell is compared to the 22nm Haswell
> > by comparing equivalent MacBook Airs with these different processors.
> > The current 13.3" MacBook Air with Broadwell
> > runs at 1.6 GHz vs 1.4 GHz for last year's model with Haswell
> > (a 14% difference). CPU performance as measured
> > by Geekbench 3, Cinebench 11.5 and Cinebench 15 improved by 4% to 13%. Graphics performance as measured by
> > Unigine Heaven, Batman: Arkham City and Tomb Raider 2013
> > is within 3% of Haswell. Battery life while decoding
> > MPEG-4 played over Wi-Fi improved by 1.5%. Apparently, most
> > of the power is consumed by the display so whatever
> > power reductions were made in the processor don't change
> > the overall battery life much. The only significant
> > improvement is the number of PCIe channels to the SSD was
> > increased from 2 to 4 so the sequential read speed
> > from SSD increased from 750 MBytes/sec to 1500 MBytes/sec.
> > Other than this change in the number of PCIe channels
> > to SSD, there is no significant difference between the 14nm Broadwell and the 22nm Haswell versions of this
> > notebook. The bottom line is that Moore's law doesn't seem
> > to help for notebooks anymore. Unless Intel pulls
> > a rabbit out of their hat and actually delivers the kind
> > of breakthroughs discussed in this article, I predict
> > Apple will switch their entire product line over to ARM within 5 years.
> >
>
> Didn't the last rumor say that Apple switches with A10?
Didn't the last rumor say that Apple will lose their customers after the shift???
After all the whole Apple laptop line is not much different from others laptops sold by
other big brands at the same price level.
More likely Apple will drop the laptop line not having a reason to exist anymore. The shift
will never happen simple and plain.
> Matt (matt.delete@this.nospam.com) on July 8, 2015 4:20 pm wrote:
> > I hope David Kanter's predictions are correct but Intel's
> > last shrink from 22nm to 14nm does not give any reason
> > for optimism. You can see how much of an improvement Intel's
> > 14nm Broadwell is compared to the 22nm Haswell
> > by comparing equivalent MacBook Airs with these different processors.
> > The current 13.3" MacBook Air with Broadwell
> > runs at 1.6 GHz vs 1.4 GHz for last year's model with Haswell
> > (a 14% difference). CPU performance as measured
> > by Geekbench 3, Cinebench 11.5 and Cinebench 15 improved by 4% to 13%. Graphics performance as measured by
> > Unigine Heaven, Batman: Arkham City and Tomb Raider 2013
> > is within 3% of Haswell. Battery life while decoding
> > MPEG-4 played over Wi-Fi improved by 1.5%. Apparently, most
> > of the power is consumed by the display so whatever
> > power reductions were made in the processor don't change
> > the overall battery life much. The only significant
> > improvement is the number of PCIe channels to the SSD was
> > increased from 2 to 4 so the sequential read speed
> > from SSD increased from 750 MBytes/sec to 1500 MBytes/sec.
> > Other than this change in the number of PCIe channels
> > to SSD, there is no significant difference between the 14nm Broadwell and the 22nm Haswell versions of this
> > notebook. The bottom line is that Moore's law doesn't seem
> > to help for notebooks anymore. Unless Intel pulls
> > a rabbit out of their hat and actually delivers the kind
> > of breakthroughs discussed in this article, I predict
> > Apple will switch their entire product line over to ARM within 5 years.
> >
>
> Didn't the last rumor say that Apple switches with A10?
Didn't the last rumor say that Apple will lose their customers after the shift???
After all the whole Apple laptop line is not much different from others laptops sold by
other big brands at the same price level.
More likely Apple will drop the laptop line not having a reason to exist anymore. The shift
will never happen simple and plain.
