Nobody wnats low performance server processors?

By: nobody in particular (, March 12, 2016 11:27 am
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David Kanter ( on March 11, 2016 9:38 am wrote:
> Paul A. Clayton ( on March 9, 2016 2:22 pm wrote:
> > David Kanter ( on March 8, 2016 8:50 pm wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > As it turns out, nobody really wants low performance server processors. Who
> > > could have imagined? :)
> >
> > Even if you mean "processor" in the sense of socket/chip,
> > I think "nobody" might be an exaggeration. The volume
> > of potential sales might well be insufficient to support
> > the development and manufacture of such systems, but
> > I suspect there are use cases where the physical traits and incremental costs would be a good match.
> Nobody is a bit hyperbolic, but if you cannot get enough customers to buy a lot you are dead. Remember that
> developing a processor probably runs around $100M. So you need enough volume to make everything work.
> With 20M server processors, and 200M client processors, Intel gets the CPU core for free and only needs
> to spend money developing the cache, fabric, memory controller, PCIe, power management, etc.
> > If you mean "low performance core", I am even more skeptical that "nobody" wants such. A core with
> > 90% the performance of current high-end cores would be much smaller and measurably more energy efficient,
> > especially if there is significant specialization for "server"
> > workloads. While going below half performance
> > may not be useful (given the area and power overheads of the memory system),
> I agree that would be compelling. But so far, nobody (save IBM or Sun) has come up with a core that delivers
> much more than half the performance of an Intel server core.

You're leaving out Fujitsu (assuming you mean general-purpose cores only.)
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