By: Heikki Kultala (heikki.kultala.delete@this.tut.fi), October 22, 2016 8:29 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
> I don't agree with that assertion because you must include it since it is integrated into the core.
>
> If you look at the Hurricane die shot, that includes cache as well.
That includes L1D and L1I caches.
That probably does NOT include L2 cache.
The intel size includes AT LEAST L2 cache and probably also LLC(L3) cache.
The comparison is really apples vs oranges.
>
> If you look at the Hurricane die shot, that includes cache as well.
That includes L1D and L1I caches.
That probably does NOT include L2 cache.
The intel size includes AT LEAST L2 cache and probably also LLC(L3) cache.
The comparison is really apples vs oranges.
| Topic | Posted By | Date |
|---|---|---|
| Neat die area comparison image | Rob | 2016/10/21 05:39 PM |
| Neat die area comparison image | anonymou5 | 2016/10/21 06:44 PM |
| Neat die area comparison image | Mr. Camel | 2016/10/22 04:58 AM |
| Neat die area comparison image | Heikki Kultala | 2016/10/22 05:19 AM |
| Neat die area comparison image | Mr. Camel | 2016/10/22 07:10 AM |
| Neat die area comparison image | Mr. Camel | 2016/10/22 07:15 AM |
| different caches... | Heikki Kultala | 2016/10/22 08:29 AM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | anon | 2016/10/22 08:52 AM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | juanrga | 2016/10/23 06:09 AM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | anon | 2016/10/23 07:25 AM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | juanrga | 2016/10/25 09:57 AM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | Simon Farnsworth | 2016/10/25 11:03 AM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | juanrga | 2016/10/28 02:02 AM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | anon | 2016/10/28 04:13 AM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | juanrga | 2016/10/29 09:47 PM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | Travis | 2016/10/30 06:34 PM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | juanrga | 2016/10/31 04:35 AM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | Simon Farnsworth | 2016/10/31 04:42 AM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | anon | 2016/11/01 12:56 PM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | Maynard Handley | 2016/11/01 01:37 PM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | anon | 2016/11/01 04:22 PM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | Maynard Handley | 2016/11/01 07:30 PM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | anon | 2016/11/02 06:15 AM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | Maynard Handley | 2016/11/02 09:23 AM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | anon | 2016/11/02 11:50 AM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | Simon Farnsworth | 2016/11/02 02:48 AM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | Simon Farnsworth | 2016/10/28 06:19 AM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | juanrga | 2016/10/29 10:15 PM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | Simon Farnsworth | 2016/10/30 12:31 PM |
| Broadwell includes LLC, just for comparision | Ricardo B | 2016/10/29 05:30 PM |
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| underclocked is different than designed for low clock speed | Maynard Handley | 2016/10/26 10:07 AM |
| That wasn't the point | juanrga | 2016/10/28 02:15 AM |
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| 8 wide vs 6 wide | Doug S | 2016/10/30 12:20 PM |
| 8 wide vs 6 wide | Wilco | 2016/10/30 01:12 PM |
| 8 wide vs 6 wide | juanrga | 2016/10/30 02:56 PM |
| 8 wide vs 6 wide | Travis | 2016/10/30 07:13 PM |
| 8 wide vs 6 wide | juanrga | 2016/10/31 04:55 AM |
| 8 wide vs 6 wide | anon | 2016/11/01 01:00 PM |
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| 8 wide vs 6 wide | juanrga | 2016/11/03 07:35 PM |
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| 8 wide vs 6 wide | Aaron Spink | 2016/11/04 04:08 PM |
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| 8 wide vs 6 wide | Wilco | 2016/11/04 01:12 PM |
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