Intel blows $15 billion on car vision purchase

By: Rob Thorpe (, March 18, 2017 10:54 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Ireland ( on March 17, 2017 4:38 pm wrote:
> Rob Thorpe ( on March 17, 2017 4:28 pm wrote:
> >
> > It makes no sense to me either. For that price they could have bought Maxim who have many profitable
> > products in many markets. For just 6B more they could have bought Infineon. They have a automotive
> > Radar division that's quite successful. They also have a vast array of other successful business
> > areas. I expect Intel could have bought Infineon kept the Automotive Radar division and sold
> > off the rest for only a few billion less than they bought it for.
> >
> Why might that be important? Well, often it seems the best protection against getting held for ransom,
> for trampling over some piece of intellectual property, that someone else owns, and you can't avoid,
> . . . is to hold a lot of stuff, that that other party in turn, needs from their perspective. Does
> that make any sense?

It makes sense, yes. I don't think that it applies in this situation though. I've worked on automotive sensing projects. There are lots of different ways to solve the problems.

To begin with, there are normal cameras, Radar and Lidar. Within each of those categories there are many different ways to build the systems. For example, under the umbrella of Radar we have pulse-doppler radar, frequency hopping radar and frequency-modulated continuous-wave radar. Many of these technologies have been in use for decades in military and aerospace applications. Usually they've been used to track missiles and aircraft. The patents on those technologies have long since expired. The only patents that are important are those on automotive specific changes to the technology. In most cases those changes can be done in different ways.
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