snowflakes

By: Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com), April 18, 2017 1:06 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on April 17, 2017 9:40 pm wrote:
> Brendan (btrotter.delete@this.gmail.com) on April 17, 2017 5:35 pm wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Michael S (already5chosen.delete@this.yahoo.com) on April 17, 2017 4:18 pm wrote:
> > > Brendan (btrotter.delete@this.gmail.com) on April 17, 2017 3:13 pm wrote:
> > > > > IMHO, it's bloody obvious than if KNL has any chance at all to be competitive against "normal" Xeon
> > > > > on non-HPC loads then it's *only* when there is a lot of parallel tasks ready all the time. *Much* more
> > > > > tasks than mere 32 that are needed for full utilization of a pair of hyperthreaded 8-core Xeons.
> > > >
> > > > Yes; and it would be extremely foolish to assume that HPC
> > > > is the only case where there is a lot of parallel tasks.
> > >
> > > But HPC, at least some classes of it, is the one of the few tasks, and likely the most important among them
> > > by far, where KNL's dual 512-bit SIMD units can be advantageous.
> > > Very-high-bandwidth, but not very low latency,
> > > HMC-alike memory is also advantageous only for relatively small class of non-HPC workloads.
> >
> > Um, what?
> >
> > HPC is mostly "same as mainstream, just more of it", and only uses hardware originally intended for
> > mainstream that's been slapped into a different form factor and given special high-speed interconnects.
> > Nothing is actually designed for HPC (beyond those high speed interconnects). The only reason Xeon Phi
> > exists is that Intel felt like recycling shrapnel left over from a "mainstream GPU" project that didn't
> > turn out so well. AVX512 was originally designed for real time rendering, and is a continuation of SIMD
> > that began with MMX (which was also originally intended for "multimedia" and not HPC).
> >
> > Note that this extends to (e.g.) NVidia recycling GPUs designed for gaming machines,
> > various people recycling ARM cores intended for smartphones, AMD adding extra hyper-transport
> > interconnects to "commodity server" Opterons because Cray begged, etc.
> >
> > To say that the "re-purposed scraps designed and intended for
> > mainstream uses" are only important for HPC is ludicrous.
> >
> > > What's the story about snowflakes? The word suddenly became popular...
> > > Even in Oz, where snow is not the most common, or so I heard.
> >
> > I really have no idea; but (for pure speculation) I think it may have become more popularity
> > as side-effect of political correctness (replacing older more sexist alternatives).
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Snowflake
>
> nut graf:
> The term "snowflake" has been used to refer to children raised by their parents in ways that give
> them an inflated sense of their own uniqueness.[3][4][5] This usage of "snowflake" may originate from
> Chuck Palahniuk's 1996 novel Fight Club, and its 1999 film adaptation. Both the novel and the film
> include the line "You are not special. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake."[4][3][6] In
> January 2017, Palahniuk claimed credit for coining this usage of "snowflake", adding "Every generation
> gets offended by different things but my friends who teach in high school tell me that their students
> are very easily offended"; Palahniuk has called it "a kind of new Victorianism.”[7]

Thank you.
Still I have a feeling that recently (1-2 years) the word is used far more often than before.
Of course, I could be wrong about it.

P.S.
Google search engine says that the 1st use on RWT forum was almost exactly 2 years ago.

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