By: dmcq (dmcq.delete@this.fano.co.uk), October 21, 2017 7:03 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on October 21, 2017 1:49 am wrote:
> Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on October 20, 2017 8:16 pm wrote:
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> Thanks for the interesting information.
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> The low performance for multi-precision operations is not surprising.
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> While this version of Mathematica can probably be improved a lot, it cannot not reach parity
> with x86, because this (support for multi-precision operations) is exactly the area were the
> ARMv8 ISA is the most deficient compared with the x86 ISA (especially since Broadwell, but
> also Intel since Nehalem & the AMD before Bulldozer were far above any competition).
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> Other deficiencies of the initial ARMv8 have already been addressed in the later extensions
> (e.g. atomic operations), but I have not heard anything about any plans for bignums.
I'm not sure what you mean. As far as I can see the multi-precision ADOX and ADCX operations of Broadwell correspond to single instructions including the actions on flags on ARMv8 and MULX becomes two instructions on ARMv8.
> Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on October 20, 2017 8:16 pm wrote:
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> > ...
>
>
>
> Thanks for the interesting information.
>
>
> The low performance for multi-precision operations is not surprising.
>
> While this version of Mathematica can probably be improved a lot, it cannot not reach parity
> with x86, because this (support for multi-precision operations) is exactly the area were the
> ARMv8 ISA is the most deficient compared with the x86 ISA (especially since Broadwell, but
> also Intel since Nehalem & the AMD before Bulldozer were far above any competition).
>
>
> Other deficiencies of the initial ARMv8 have already been addressed in the later extensions
> (e.g. atomic operations), but I have not heard anything about any plans for bignums.
I'm not sure what you mean. As far as I can see the multi-precision ADOX and ADCX operations of Broadwell correspond to single instructions including the actions on flags on ARMv8 and MULX becomes two instructions on ARMv8.
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