By: AM (myname4rwt.delete@this.jee-male.com), August 17, 2018 2:04 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Alberto (git.delete@this.git.it) on August 17, 2018 10:03 am wrote:
> Andrei Frumusanu (andrei.delete@this.anandtech.com) on August 17, 2018 9:34 am wrote:
> > Alberto (git.delete@this.git.it) on August 17, 2018 9:13 am wrote:
> > > Andrei Frumusanu (andrei.delete@this.anandtech.com) on August 17, 2018 7:30 am wrote:
> > > > Alberto (git.delete@this.git.it) on August 17, 2018 1:52 am wrote:
> > > > > Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on August 16, 2018 11:56 pm wrote:
> > > > > > AM (myname4rwt.delete@this.jee-male.com) on August 16, 2018 9:32 am wrote:
> > > > > > > https://www.arm.com/company/news/2018/08/accelerating-mobile-and-laptop-performance
> > > > > > >
> > > > > ARM always was misleading.
> > > > > If you look at power draw of many very recent phone SOCs under load,
> > > > > the power consumption go in the 11/15w range toasting your phone.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is complete garbage talk. All recent Arm CPU based SoCs are 1.5-2.5W
> > > >
> > > > https://images.anandtech.com/doci/12520/speceff1.png
> > >
> > > This is absolutely wrong, the average figure under load is 5-7 W in phones and 9-12W in tablets. Yes
> > > there is the screen to consider but under a cpu load test this is nearly irrelevant.
> > >
> > > You can find tons of power tests on Notebookcheck site, for boh phones and tablets
> > >
> > >
> >
> > More garbage talk. You have absolutely *zero* notion of what you're talking about.
> >
> > Notebookcheck has no idea how to measure power either,
> > half their numbers are not even power consumption but
> > instead the power input limit as they're measuring USB input power while doing some stupid GPU+CPU virus.
>
> Please show me an official ARM datasheet, with voltages amperages in idle, full load, average
> utilization. They are only for OEMs, after all ARM users are silly.....meanwhile the batteries
> are growing a lot to compensate....exploding sometimes. At least you can download a detailed
> Intel document with the clear indication of the huge amount of amperage needed to sustain
> the bursts. There is nothing of hidden fortunately, it is all on paper.
>
> Discuss about power consumption on ARM cpus is more like discuss about nothing. ARM is the only
> company around the world capable to increase drametically the IPC without rising the power.
> Magic religion from an old isle near Europe.
>
> I love hard numbers not idiocy for idiotic devices.
What you love is not hard numbers (except for number 15 it seems, more on which below), but neverending trolling on this board, and a remarkably stupid one -- you can't even understand that with your track record of neverending lies and misrepresentation of what others say your appearance on the board can be interpreted by any smart person in only one way: "the news are truth that either scares Intel or seriously pisses them off". So keep it up, dude. :)
BTW, the 15W figures for phone SoC power draw and other crap you posted here is in the same BS ballpark as Intel's alleged ownership of 15 EUV tools you posted before -- at best total confusion and misunderstanding on your part, as phone formfactor simply doesn't allow to dissipate that much.
Feel free to post links with those 15W figures for phone SoCs if you want us to have a laugh at what you're trying to sell for truth this time (unless this time around you simply make it up) -- I had a good laugh when you posted article which "proves" Intel's ownership of 15 EUV tools.
> Andrei Frumusanu (andrei.delete@this.anandtech.com) on August 17, 2018 9:34 am wrote:
> > Alberto (git.delete@this.git.it) on August 17, 2018 9:13 am wrote:
> > > Andrei Frumusanu (andrei.delete@this.anandtech.com) on August 17, 2018 7:30 am wrote:
> > > > Alberto (git.delete@this.git.it) on August 17, 2018 1:52 am wrote:
> > > > > Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on August 16, 2018 11:56 pm wrote:
> > > > > > AM (myname4rwt.delete@this.jee-male.com) on August 16, 2018 9:32 am wrote:
> > > > > > > https://www.arm.com/company/news/2018/08/accelerating-mobile-and-laptop-performance
> > > > > > >
> > > > > ARM always was misleading.
> > > > > If you look at power draw of many very recent phone SOCs under load,
> > > > > the power consumption go in the 11/15w range toasting your phone.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is complete garbage talk. All recent Arm CPU based SoCs are 1.5-2.5W
> > > >
> > > > https://images.anandtech.com/doci/12520/speceff1.png
> > >
> > > This is absolutely wrong, the average figure under load is 5-7 W in phones and 9-12W in tablets. Yes
> > > there is the screen to consider but under a cpu load test this is nearly irrelevant.
> > >
> > > You can find tons of power tests on Notebookcheck site, for boh phones and tablets
> > >
> > >
> >
> > More garbage talk. You have absolutely *zero* notion of what you're talking about.
> >
> > Notebookcheck has no idea how to measure power either,
> > half their numbers are not even power consumption but
> > instead the power input limit as they're measuring USB input power while doing some stupid GPU+CPU virus.
>
> Please show me an official ARM datasheet, with voltages amperages in idle, full load, average
> utilization. They are only for OEMs, after all ARM users are silly.....meanwhile the batteries
> are growing a lot to compensate....exploding sometimes. At least you can download a detailed
> Intel document with the clear indication of the huge amount of amperage needed to sustain
> the bursts. There is nothing of hidden fortunately, it is all on paper.
>
> Discuss about power consumption on ARM cpus is more like discuss about nothing. ARM is the only
> company around the world capable to increase drametically the IPC without rising the power.
> Magic religion from an old isle near Europe.
>
> I love hard numbers not idiocy for idiotic devices.
What you love is not hard numbers (except for number 15 it seems, more on which below), but neverending trolling on this board, and a remarkably stupid one -- you can't even understand that with your track record of neverending lies and misrepresentation of what others say your appearance on the board can be interpreted by any smart person in only one way: "the news are truth that either scares Intel or seriously pisses them off". So keep it up, dude. :)
BTW, the 15W figures for phone SoC power draw and other crap you posted here is in the same BS ballpark as Intel's alleged ownership of 15 EUV tools you posted before -- at best total confusion and misunderstanding on your part, as phone formfactor simply doesn't allow to dissipate that much.
Feel free to post links with those 15W figures for phone SoCs if you want us to have a laugh at what you're trying to sell for truth this time (unless this time around you simply make it up) -- I had a good laugh when you posted article which "proves" Intel's ownership of 15 EUV tools.
Topic | Posted By | Date |
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ARM turns to a god and a hero | AM | 2018/08/16 08:32 AM |
ARM turns to a god and a hero | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/16 08:41 AM |
ARM turns to a god and a hero | Doug S | 2018/08/16 10:11 AM |
ARM turns to a god and a hero | Geoff Langdale | 2018/08/16 10:59 PM |
ARM turns to a god and a hero | dmcq | 2018/08/17 04:12 AM |
ARM is somewhat misleading | Adrian | 2018/08/16 10:56 PM |
It's marketing material | Gabriele Svelto | 2018/08/17 12:00 AM |
It's marketing material | Michael S | 2018/08/17 02:13 AM |
It's marketing material | dmcq | 2018/08/17 04:23 AM |
It's marketing material | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 06:25 AM |
It's marketing material | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/17 10:20 AM |
It's marketing material | Groo | 2018/08/17 12:44 PM |
It's marketing material | Doug S | 2018/08/17 01:14 PM |
promises and deliveries | AM | 2018/08/17 01:32 PM |
promises and deliveries | Passing Through | 2018/08/17 02:02 PM |
Just by way of clarification | Passing Through | 2018/08/17 02:15 PM |
Just by way of clarification | AM | 2018/08/18 11:49 AM |
Just by way of clarification | Passing Through | 2018/08/18 12:34 PM |
This ain't the nineties any longer | Passing Through | 2018/08/18 12:54 PM |
This ain't the nineties any longer | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/18 01:50 PM |
This ain't the nineties any longer | Passing Through | 2018/08/18 02:57 PM |
This ain't the nineties any longer | Passing Through | 2018/09/06 01:42 PM |
This ain't the nineties any longer | Maynard Handley | 2018/09/07 03:10 PM |
This ain't the nineties any longer | Passing Through | 2018/09/07 03:48 PM |
This ain't the nineties any longer | Maynard Handley | 2018/09/07 04:22 PM |
Just by way of clarification | Wilco | 2018/08/18 12:26 PM |
Just by way of clarification | Passing Through | 2018/08/18 12:39 PM |
Just by way of clarification | none | 2018/08/18 09:52 PM |
Just by way of clarification | dmcq | 2018/08/19 07:32 AM |
Just by way of clarification | none | 2018/08/19 07:54 AM |
Just by way of clarification | dmcq | 2018/08/19 10:24 AM |
Just by way of clarification | none | 2018/08/19 10:52 AM |
Just by way of clarification | Gabriele Svelto | 2018/08/19 05:41 AM |
Just by way of clarification | Passing Through | 2018/08/19 08:25 AM |
Whiteboards at Gatwick airport anyone? | Passing Through | 2018/08/20 03:24 AM |
It's marketing material | Michael S | 2018/08/18 10:12 AM |
It's marketing material | Brett | 2018/08/18 04:22 PM |
It's marketing material | Brett | 2018/08/18 04:33 PM |
It's marketing material | Adrian | 2018/08/19 12:21 AM |
A76 | AM | 2018/08/17 01:45 PM |
A76 | Michael S | 2018/08/18 10:20 AM |
A76 | AM | 2018/08/18 11:39 AM |
A76 | Michael S | 2018/08/18 11:49 AM |
A76 | AM | 2018/08/18 12:06 PM |
A76 | Doug S | 2018/08/18 12:43 PM |
A76 | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/18 01:42 PM |
A76 | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/18 03:22 PM |
Why write zeros when one can use metadata? | Paul A. Clayton | 2018/08/18 05:19 PM |
Why write zeros when one can use metadata? | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/19 10:12 AM |
Dictionary compress might apply to memcopy | Paul A. Clayton | 2018/08/19 12:45 PM |
Instructions for zeroing | Konrad Schwarz | 2018/08/30 05:37 AM |
Instructions for zeroing | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/30 07:41 AM |
Instructions for zeroing | Adrian | 2018/08/30 10:37 AM |
dcbz -> dcbzl (was: Instructions for zeroing) | hobold | 2018/08/31 12:50 AM |
dcbz -> dcbzl (was: Instructions for zeroing) | dmcq | 2018/09/01 04:28 AM |
A76 | Travis | 2018/08/19 10:36 AM |
A76 | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/19 11:22 AM |
A76 | Travis | 2018/08/19 01:07 PM |
A76 | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/19 05:24 PM |
Remote atomics | matthew | 2018/08/19 11:51 AM |
Remote atomics | Michael S | 2018/08/19 12:58 PM |
Remote atomics | matthew | 2018/08/19 01:32 PM |
Remote atomics | Michael S | 2018/08/19 01:36 PM |
Remote atomics | matthew | 2018/08/19 01:48 PM |
Remote atomics | Michael S | 2018/08/19 02:16 PM |
Remote atomics | Ricardo B | 2018/08/20 09:05 AM |
Remote atomics | dmcq | 2018/08/19 01:33 PM |
Remote atomics | Travis | 2018/08/19 01:32 PM |
Remote atomics | Michael S | 2018/08/19 01:46 PM |
Remote atomics | Travis | 2018/08/19 04:35 PM |
Remote atomics | Michael S | 2018/08/20 02:29 AM |
Remote atomics | matthew | 2018/08/19 06:58 PM |
Remote atomics | anon | 2018/08/19 11:59 PM |
Remote atomics | Travis | 2018/08/20 09:26 AM |
Remote atomics | Travis | 2018/08/20 08:57 AM |
Remote atomics | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/20 03:29 PM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | Paul A. Clayton | 2018/08/21 08:09 AM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 01:34 PM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 02:31 PM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | Gabriele Svelto | 2018/08/21 02:54 PM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 03:26 PM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | Travis | 2018/08/21 03:21 PM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 03:39 PM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | Travis | 2018/08/21 03:59 PM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 04:13 PM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | anon | 2018/08/21 03:27 PM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 05:02 PM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | Etienne | 2018/08/22 01:28 AM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | Gabriele Svelto | 2018/08/22 02:07 PM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | Travis | 2018/08/22 03:00 PM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | anon | 2018/08/22 05:52 PM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | Travis | 2018/08/21 03:37 PM |
Is preventing misuse that complex? | Paul A. Clayton | 2018/08/23 04:42 AM |
Is preventing misuse that complex? | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/23 11:46 AM |
Is preventing misuse that complex? | Travis | 2018/08/23 12:29 PM |
Is preventing misuse that complex? | Travis | 2018/08/23 12:33 PM |
Is preventing misuse that complex? | Jeff S. | 2018/08/24 06:57 AM |
Is preventing misuse that complex? | Travis | 2018/08/24 07:47 AM |
Is preventing misuse that complex? | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/23 01:30 PM |
Is preventing misuse that complex? | Travis | 2018/08/23 02:11 PM |
Is preventing misuse that complex? | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/24 12:00 PM |
Is preventing misuse that complex? | Gabriele Svelto | 2018/08/24 12:25 PM |
Is preventing misuse that complex? | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/24 12:33 PM |
Fitting time slices to execution phases | Travis | 2018/08/21 02:54 PM |
rseq: holy grail rwlock? | Travis | 2018/08/21 02:18 PM |
rseq: holy grail rwlock? | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 02:59 PM |
rseq: holy grail rwlock? | Travis | 2018/08/21 03:27 PM |
rseq: holy grail rwlock? | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 04:10 PM |
rseq: holy grail rwlock? | Travis | 2018/08/21 05:21 PM |
ARM design houses | Michael S | 2018/08/21 04:07 AM |
ARM design houses | Wilco | 2018/08/22 11:38 AM |
ARM design houses | Michael S | 2018/08/22 01:21 PM |
ARM design houses | Wilco | 2018/08/22 02:23 PM |
ARM design houses | Michael S | 2018/08/29 12:58 AM |
Qualcomm's core naming scheme really, really sucks | Heikki Kultala | 2018/08/29 01:19 AM |
A76 | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/18 01:07 PM |
A76 | Michael S | 2018/08/18 01:32 PM |
A76 | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/18 01:52 PM |
A76 | Michael S | 2018/08/18 02:04 PM |
ARM is somewhat misleading | juanrga | 2018/08/17 12:20 AM |
Surprised?? | Alberto | 2018/08/17 12:52 AM |
Surprised?? | Alberto | 2018/08/17 01:10 AM |
Surprised?? | none | 2018/08/17 01:46 AM |
Garbage talk | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 06:30 AM |
Garbage talk | Michael S | 2018/08/17 06:43 AM |
Garbage talk | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 08:51 AM |
Garbage talk | Michael S | 2018/08/18 10:29 AM |
Garbage talk | Adrian | 2018/08/17 07:28 AM |
Garbage talk | Alberto | 2018/08/17 08:20 AM |
Garbage talk | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 08:48 AM |
Garbage talk | Adrian | 2018/08/17 09:17 AM |
Garbage talk | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 09:36 AM |
Garbage talk | Adrian | 2018/08/17 01:53 PM |
Garbage talk | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 11:17 PM |
More like a religion he?? ARM has an easy life :) | Alberto | 2018/08/17 08:13 AM |
More like a religion he?? ARM has an easy life :) | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 08:34 AM |
More like a religion he?? ARM has an easy life :) | Alberto | 2018/08/17 09:03 AM |
More like a religion he?? ARM has an easy life :) | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 09:43 AM |
More like a religion he?? ARM has an easy life :) | Doug S | 2018/08/17 01:17 PM |
15W phone SoCs | AM | 2018/08/17 02:04 PM |
More like a religion he?? ARM has an easy life :) | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/17 11:29 AM |
my future stuff will be better than your old stuff, hey I'm a god at last (NT) | Eric Bron | 2018/08/18 02:34 AM |
my future stuff will be better than your old stuff, hey I'm a god at last | none | 2018/08/18 07:34 AM |