By: Passing Through (ireland.delete@this.web.ie), August 19, 2018 8:25 am
Room: Moderated Discussions
Gabriele Svelto (gabriele.svelto.delete@this.gmail.com) on August 19, 2018 6:41 am wrote:
> Wilco (Wilco.dijkstra.delete@this.ntlworld.com) on August 18, 2018 1:26 pm wrote:
> > Are you seriously thinking developers are forced to use simulators for Arm software development?
>
> You might remember a discussion not long ago regarding ab ARM kernel developer that said on a public
> mailing list that he didn't have access to actual hardware to verify if his backported patches worked.
My surprise and amazement looking at it from point of view of a complete outsider, is that we've been nothing for the last several years, but creating fuel. We've been busy laying down this layer warm, flammable, dry, crisp vegetation all over the place. Smart phone devices, infrastructure and systems. Whilst it may be reassuring to know, that we haven't experienced anything like a forest fire yet, I'm still reminded of stories such as the Granite Mountain hotshots.
What happens when the equivalent of a Mirai botnet comes raging over the brow of the next hillside. It's making progress towards the ranch house? And it hits people squarely between the eyes - we haven't even given these guys shovels? Who will the finger point at then? Honestly.
> Wilco (Wilco.dijkstra.delete@this.ntlworld.com) on August 18, 2018 1:26 pm wrote:
> > Are you seriously thinking developers are forced to use simulators for Arm software development?
>
> You might remember a discussion not long ago regarding ab ARM kernel developer that said on a public
> mailing list that he didn't have access to actual hardware to verify if his backported patches worked.
My surprise and amazement looking at it from point of view of a complete outsider, is that we've been nothing for the last several years, but creating fuel. We've been busy laying down this layer warm, flammable, dry, crisp vegetation all over the place. Smart phone devices, infrastructure and systems. Whilst it may be reassuring to know, that we haven't experienced anything like a forest fire yet, I'm still reminded of stories such as the Granite Mountain hotshots.
What happens when the equivalent of a Mirai botnet comes raging over the brow of the next hillside. It's making progress towards the ranch house? And it hits people squarely between the eyes - we haven't even given these guys shovels? Who will the finger point at then? Honestly.
| Topic | Posted By | Date |
|---|---|---|
| ARM turns to a god and a hero | AM | 2018/08/16 08:32 AM |
| ARM turns to a god and a hero | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/16 08:41 AM |
| ARM turns to a god and a hero | Doug S | 2018/08/16 10:11 AM |
| ARM turns to a god and a hero | Geoff Langdale | 2018/08/16 10:59 PM |
| ARM turns to a god and a hero | dmcq | 2018/08/17 04:12 AM |
| ARM is somewhat misleading | Adrian | 2018/08/16 10:56 PM |
| It's marketing material | Gabriele Svelto | 2018/08/17 12:00 AM |
| It's marketing material | Michael S | 2018/08/17 02:13 AM |
| It's marketing material | dmcq | 2018/08/17 04:23 AM |
| It's marketing material | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 06:25 AM |
| It's marketing material | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/17 10:20 AM |
| It's marketing material | Groo | 2018/08/17 12:44 PM |
| It's marketing material | Doug S | 2018/08/17 01:14 PM |
| promises and deliveries | AM | 2018/08/17 01:32 PM |
| promises and deliveries | Passing Through | 2018/08/17 02:02 PM |
| Just by way of clarification | Passing Through | 2018/08/17 02:15 PM |
| Just by way of clarification | AM | 2018/08/18 11:49 AM |
| Just by way of clarification | Passing Through | 2018/08/18 12:34 PM |
| This ain't the nineties any longer | Passing Through | 2018/08/18 12:54 PM |
| This ain't the nineties any longer | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/18 01:50 PM |
| This ain't the nineties any longer | Passing Through | 2018/08/18 02:57 PM |
| This ain't the nineties any longer | Passing Through | 2018/09/06 01:42 PM |
| This ain't the nineties any longer | Maynard Handley | 2018/09/07 03:10 PM |
| This ain't the nineties any longer | Passing Through | 2018/09/07 03:48 PM |
| This ain't the nineties any longer | Maynard Handley | 2018/09/07 04:22 PM |
| Just by way of clarification | Wilco | 2018/08/18 12:26 PM |
| Just by way of clarification | Passing Through | 2018/08/18 12:39 PM |
| Just by way of clarification | none | 2018/08/18 09:52 PM |
| Just by way of clarification | dmcq | 2018/08/19 07:32 AM |
| Just by way of clarification | none | 2018/08/19 07:54 AM |
| Just by way of clarification | dmcq | 2018/08/19 10:24 AM |
| Just by way of clarification | none | 2018/08/19 10:52 AM |
| Just by way of clarification | Gabriele Svelto | 2018/08/19 05:41 AM |
| Just by way of clarification | Passing Through | 2018/08/19 08:25 AM |
| Whiteboards at Gatwick airport anyone? | Passing Through | 2018/08/20 03:24 AM |
| It's marketing material | Michael S | 2018/08/18 10:12 AM |
| It's marketing material | Brett | 2018/08/18 04:22 PM |
| It's marketing material | Brett | 2018/08/18 04:33 PM |
| It's marketing material | Adrian | 2018/08/19 12:21 AM |
| A76 | AM | 2018/08/17 01:45 PM |
| A76 | Michael S | 2018/08/18 10:20 AM |
| A76 | AM | 2018/08/18 11:39 AM |
| A76 | Michael S | 2018/08/18 11:49 AM |
| A76 | AM | 2018/08/18 12:06 PM |
| A76 | Doug S | 2018/08/18 12:43 PM |
| A76 | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/18 01:42 PM |
| A76 | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/18 03:22 PM |
| Why write zeros when one can use metadata? | Paul A. Clayton | 2018/08/18 05:19 PM |
| Why write zeros when one can use metadata? | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/19 10:12 AM |
| Dictionary compress might apply to memcopy | Paul A. Clayton | 2018/08/19 12:45 PM |
| Instructions for zeroing | Konrad Schwarz | 2018/08/30 05:37 AM |
| Instructions for zeroing | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/30 07:41 AM |
| Instructions for zeroing | Adrian | 2018/08/30 10:37 AM |
| dcbz -> dcbzl (was: Instructions for zeroing) | hobold | 2018/08/31 12:50 AM |
| dcbz -> dcbzl (was: Instructions for zeroing) | dmcq | 2018/09/01 04:28 AM |
| A76 | Travis | 2018/08/19 10:36 AM |
| A76 | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/19 11:22 AM |
| A76 | Travis | 2018/08/19 01:07 PM |
| A76 | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/19 05:24 PM |
| Remote atomics | matthew | 2018/08/19 11:51 AM |
| Remote atomics | Michael S | 2018/08/19 12:58 PM |
| Remote atomics | matthew | 2018/08/19 01:32 PM |
| Remote atomics | Michael S | 2018/08/19 01:36 PM |
| Remote atomics | matthew | 2018/08/19 01:48 PM |
| Remote atomics | Michael S | 2018/08/19 02:16 PM |
| Remote atomics | Ricardo B | 2018/08/20 09:05 AM |
| Remote atomics | dmcq | 2018/08/19 01:33 PM |
| Remote atomics | Travis | 2018/08/19 01:32 PM |
| Remote atomics | Michael S | 2018/08/19 01:46 PM |
| Remote atomics | Travis | 2018/08/19 04:35 PM |
| Remote atomics | Michael S | 2018/08/20 02:29 AM |
| Remote atomics | matthew | 2018/08/19 06:58 PM |
| Remote atomics | anon | 2018/08/19 11:59 PM |
| Remote atomics | Travis | 2018/08/20 09:26 AM |
| Remote atomics | Travis | 2018/08/20 08:57 AM |
| Remote atomics | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/20 03:29 PM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | Paul A. Clayton | 2018/08/21 08:09 AM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 01:34 PM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 02:31 PM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | Gabriele Svelto | 2018/08/21 02:54 PM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 03:26 PM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | Travis | 2018/08/21 03:21 PM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 03:39 PM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | Travis | 2018/08/21 03:59 PM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 04:13 PM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | anon | 2018/08/21 03:27 PM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 05:02 PM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | Etienne | 2018/08/22 01:28 AM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | Gabriele Svelto | 2018/08/22 02:07 PM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | Travis | 2018/08/22 03:00 PM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | anon | 2018/08/22 05:52 PM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | Travis | 2018/08/21 03:37 PM |
| Is preventing misuse that complex? | Paul A. Clayton | 2018/08/23 04:42 AM |
| Is preventing misuse that complex? | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/23 11:46 AM |
| Is preventing misuse that complex? | Travis | 2018/08/23 12:29 PM |
| Is preventing misuse that complex? | Travis | 2018/08/23 12:33 PM |
| Is preventing misuse that complex? | Jeff S. | 2018/08/24 06:57 AM |
| Is preventing misuse that complex? | Travis | 2018/08/24 07:47 AM |
| Is preventing misuse that complex? | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/23 01:30 PM |
| Is preventing misuse that complex? | Travis | 2018/08/23 02:11 PM |
| Is preventing misuse that complex? | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/24 12:00 PM |
| Is preventing misuse that complex? | Gabriele Svelto | 2018/08/24 12:25 PM |
| Is preventing misuse that complex? | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/24 12:33 PM |
| Fitting time slices to execution phases | Travis | 2018/08/21 02:54 PM |
| rseq: holy grail rwlock? | Travis | 2018/08/21 02:18 PM |
| rseq: holy grail rwlock? | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 02:59 PM |
| rseq: holy grail rwlock? | Travis | 2018/08/21 03:27 PM |
| rseq: holy grail rwlock? | Linus Torvalds | 2018/08/21 04:10 PM |
| rseq: holy grail rwlock? | Travis | 2018/08/21 05:21 PM |
| ARM design houses | Michael S | 2018/08/21 04:07 AM |
| ARM design houses | Wilco | 2018/08/22 11:38 AM |
| ARM design houses | Michael S | 2018/08/22 01:21 PM |
| ARM design houses | Wilco | 2018/08/22 02:23 PM |
| ARM design houses | Michael S | 2018/08/29 12:58 AM |
| Qualcomm's core naming scheme really, really sucks | Heikki Kultala | 2018/08/29 01:19 AM |
| A76 | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/18 01:07 PM |
| A76 | Michael S | 2018/08/18 01:32 PM |
| A76 | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/18 01:52 PM |
| A76 | Michael S | 2018/08/18 02:04 PM |
| ARM is somewhat misleading | juanrga | 2018/08/17 12:20 AM |
| Surprised?? | Alberto | 2018/08/17 12:52 AM |
| Surprised?? | Alberto | 2018/08/17 01:10 AM |
| Surprised?? | none | 2018/08/17 01:46 AM |
| Garbage talk | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 06:30 AM |
| Garbage talk | Michael S | 2018/08/17 06:43 AM |
| Garbage talk | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 08:51 AM |
| Garbage talk | Michael S | 2018/08/18 10:29 AM |
| Garbage talk | Adrian | 2018/08/17 07:28 AM |
| Garbage talk | Alberto | 2018/08/17 08:20 AM |
| Garbage talk | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 08:48 AM |
| Garbage talk | Adrian | 2018/08/17 09:17 AM |
| Garbage talk | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 09:36 AM |
| Garbage talk | Adrian | 2018/08/17 01:53 PM |
| Garbage talk | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 11:17 PM |
| More like a religion he?? ARM has an easy life :) | Alberto | 2018/08/17 08:13 AM |
| More like a religion he?? ARM has an easy life :) | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 08:34 AM |
| More like a religion he?? ARM has an easy life :) | Alberto | 2018/08/17 09:03 AM |
| More like a religion he?? ARM has an easy life :) | Andrei Frumusanu | 2018/08/17 09:43 AM |
| More like a religion he?? ARM has an easy life :) | Doug S | 2018/08/17 01:17 PM |
| 15W phone SoCs | AM | 2018/08/17 02:04 PM |
| More like a religion he?? ARM has an easy life :) | Maynard Handley | 2018/08/17 11:29 AM |
| my future stuff will be better than your old stuff, hey I'm a god at last (NT) | Eric Bron | 2018/08/18 02:34 AM |
| my future stuff will be better than your old stuff, hey I'm a god at last | none | 2018/08/18 07:34 AM |
