Already in mainstream ???

By: blue (blue.delete@this.blue.com), September 22, 2018 8:29 am
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wumpus (lost.delete@this.in.a.cave) on September 22, 2018 7:37 am wrote:
> john (john.ral8.delete@this.gmail.com) on September 21, 2018 11:04 pm wrote:
> > Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on September 21, 2018 5:04 pm wrote:
> > >
> > > I know you and Intel claim this (EMIB is cheaper). But their lack of enthusiasm as to deploying
> > > it widely makes me dubious. When I will I see it in a mainstream Intel product?
> >
> > huh?
> >
> > EMIB is already used in mainstream Intel products. See "Kaby Lake G". Quick google shows it's shipping
> > in dozens of products including the HP Spectre x360, Dell XPS 13, Intel's NUC, and Beelink Kaby G5/G7.
> >
> >
> > - John
>
> Is the picture accurate? I see a Vega GPU + HMB2 on an interposer, a large break, and an Intel chip. Do
> EMIB connection silicon really space the chips out that far? If it was that far, I'd expect something closer
> to "fully support both chips" like an interposer and just use a superior bonding or something.
>
> It doesn't help that you would have to bond the EMIB to the Vega's
> interposer, as I don't think there is any other access to the thing.

EMIB is for the HBM2 + Vega.

Part of it is Intel claiming height advantage over interposer... but AMD's thinned interposer on Vega mobile (which died due to mining demand) is the same thickness.

the GPU and CPU on that part are PCI
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