Should Apple start making servers?

By: juanrga (noemail.delete@this.juanrga.com), October 6, 2018 12:37 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Adrian (a.delete@this.acm.org) on October 6, 2018 12:16 am wrote:
> Doug S (foo.delete@this.bar.bar) on October 5, 2018 11:48 pm wrote:
> > Not for the open market, but for themselves. The A12's two big cores and cache is about 10 sq mm, so they
> > could do 32 cores, and throw in extra memory controllers, secure element, I/O etc. in about 200 sq mm.
> >
> > Anandtech's SPEC2006 benchmarks didn't show the composite score, but just looking at gcc the A12
> > running in a phone is almost as fast in single threaded code as the fastest Intel server CPUs tested
> > under SPEC2006 - basically a match for an Intel server CPU at 4 GHz turbo! Apple could leave the
> > clock at 2.5 GHz, which all 32 cores could sustain, and still stay well under 100 watts.
> >
> > Now they don't have to worry about Intel ME bugs, and basically have signed code from
> > the moment of power on to reduce the attack surface. If they want to add extra capabilities
> > they can throw in a bunch of custom logic to do whatever they need, without anyone outside
> > finding out and being able to know their plans or follow their lead.
> >
> > Ironic that the company best positioned to finally cause ARM servers to take actual
> > market share from x86 is the one company that would have no interest in doing so...
>
>
>
> For the open market, Apple server chips could not be used, because Apple is unwilling to provide adequate documentation
> for any of its products and I do not believe that they will change this policy any time soon.
>
> Their internal consumption is probably not large enough to justify
> the expenses for the the development of a server chip.
>

Essentially the same design could be also used beyond servers, e.g. in Mac Pro workstations currently powered by Xeon.
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Should Apple start making servers?Doug S2018/10/05 11:48 PM
  Should Apple start making servers?Adrian2018/10/06 12:16 AM
    Should Apple start making servers?juanrga2018/10/06 12:37 PM
      Should Apple start making servers?Alberto2018/10/07 09:52 AM
  Should Apple start making servers?Andrei Frumusanu2018/10/06 12:23 AM
    Should Apple start making servers?Doug S2018/10/06 09:25 AM
      Should Apple start making servers?Maynard Handley2018/10/06 09:50 AM
        Good point (NT)Gabriele Svelto2018/10/06 02:57 PM
          Good pointBlaine2018/10/07 11:14 AM
        Probably notDavid Kanter2018/10/07 10:44 PM
          Probably notMichael S2018/10/08 12:58 AM
          Probably notMaynard Handley2018/10/08 03:52 PM
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    Should Apple start making servers?Beastian2018/10/06 08:39 AM
    Should Apple start making servers?Doug S2018/10/06 09:29 AM
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      Should Apple start making servers?Gabriele Svelto2018/10/06 02:56 PM
        Should Apple start making servers?Maynard Handley2018/10/06 06:58 PM
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            Should Apple start making servers?dmcq2018/10/07 03:33 AM
              Should Apple start making servers?Alberto2018/10/07 06:07 AM
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  Should Apple start making servers?Michael S2018/10/08 04:05 AM
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