By: Wilco (Wilco.dijkstra.delete@this.ntlworld.com), October 10, 2018 12:25 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
nobody in particular (nobody.delete@this.nowhe.re) on October 10, 2018 1:03 pm wrote:
> Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on October 10, 2018 10:26 am wrote:
> > nobody in particular (nobody.delete@this.nowhe.re) on October 10, 2018 8:55 am wrote:
> > > More info here
> > >
> > > "In essence, requests per second (RPS) per Watt is a critical metric that Qualcomm’s
> > > ARM64 46 core Falkor chip had a big advantage over Intel’s Skylake 4116. Embracing
> > > the value of optionality and market competition, we made some noise.
> > >
> > > Intel proposed to co-innovate with us an off-roadmap 24-core
> > > Xeon Gold CPU specifically made for our workload
> > > offering considerable value in Performance per Watt. For this generation, we continue using Intel as system
> > > solutions are widely available while we’re working on realizing ARM64’s benefits to production."
> > >
> > > Looks like Centriq was far less of a done deal for Cloudflare than many assumed.
> >
> > Seems like a better interpretation is "Looks like there was real value in Centriq
> > but QC management, ONCE again, was able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory".
>
> Sounds about right. I find Qualcomm's decision to invest huge amounts into building a very credible
> server CPU, then withdraw from servers within a couple months of general availability, baffling.
Qualcomm hasn't withdrawn from servers, they denied the rumour. There is a 7nm 2nd generation - even a simple shrink would enable significant gains over Falkor.
Wilco
> Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on October 10, 2018 10:26 am wrote:
> > nobody in particular (nobody.delete@this.nowhe.re) on October 10, 2018 8:55 am wrote:
> > > More info here
> > >
> > > "In essence, requests per second (RPS) per Watt is a critical metric that Qualcomm’s
> > > ARM64 46 core Falkor chip had a big advantage over Intel’s Skylake 4116. Embracing
> > > the value of optionality and market competition, we made some noise.
> > >
> > > Intel proposed to co-innovate with us an off-roadmap 24-core
> > > Xeon Gold CPU specifically made for our workload
> > > offering considerable value in Performance per Watt. For this generation, we continue using Intel as system
> > > solutions are widely available while we’re working on realizing ARM64’s benefits to production."
> > >
> > > Looks like Centriq was far less of a done deal for Cloudflare than many assumed.
> >
> > Seems like a better interpretation is "Looks like there was real value in Centriq
> > but QC management, ONCE again, was able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory".
>
> Sounds about right. I find Qualcomm's decision to invest huge amounts into building a very credible
> server CPU, then withdraw from servers within a couple months of general availability, baffling.
Qualcomm hasn't withdrawn from servers, they denied the rumour. There is a 7nm 2nd generation - even a simple shrink would enable significant gains over Falkor.
Wilco