anon (anon.delete@this.anon.com) on October 10, 2018 8:56 pm wrote:
> Wilco (Wilco.dijkstra.delete@this.ntlworld.com) on October 10, 2018 2:58 pm wrote:
> > anon (anon.delete@this.ymous.net) on October 10, 2018 2:07 pm wrote:
> > > Wilco (Wilco.dijkstra.delete@this.ntlworld.com) on October 10, 2018 1:25 pm wrote:
> > > > nobody in particular (nobody.delete@this.nowhe.re) on October 10, 2018 1:03 pm wrote:
> > > > > Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on October 10, 2018 10:26 am wrote:
> > > > > > nobody in particular (nobody.delete@this.nowhe.re) on October 10, 2018 8:55 am wrote:
> > > > > > > More info here
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "In essence, requests per second (RPS) per Watt is a critical metric that Qualcomm’s
> > > > > > > ARM64 46 core Falkor chip had a big advantage over Intel’s Skylake 4116. Embracing
> > > > > > > the value of optionality and market competition, we made some noise.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Intel proposed to co-innovate with us an off-roadmap 24-core
> > > > > > > Xeon Gold CPU specifically made for our workload
> > > > > > > offering considerable value in Performance per Watt. For this generation, we continue using Intel as system
> > > > > > > solutions are widely available while we’re working on realizing ARM64’s benefits to production."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Looks like Centriq was far less of a done deal for Cloudflare than many assumed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Seems like a better interpretation is "Looks like there was real value in Centriq
> > > > > > but QC management, ONCE again, was able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory".
> > > > >
> > > > > Sounds about right. I find Qualcomm's decision to invest huge amounts into building a very credible
> > > > > server CPU, then withdraw from servers within a couple months of general availability, baffling.
> > > >
> > > > Qualcomm hasn't withdrawn from servers, they denied the rumour. There is a 7nm 2nd
> > > > generation - even a simple shrink would enable significant gains over Falkor.
> > > >
> > > > Wilco
> > >
> > > They lost most of the upper management/technical staff to
> > > Microsoft. IMHO there will only be one next generation.
> >
> > They already got a solid server CPU which on 7nm should have 3-4 times the perf/W of Xeon. Even
> > with a smaller team it could remain competitive for a few generations with minor tweaks.
>
> In some particular metric in some test that was being used to bargain
> with Intel because they apparently wanted to buy Intel CPUs.

Cloudflare certainly haven't given up on moving to AArch64 if that's what you're implying. From the original link: "For this generation, we continue using Intel as system solutions are widely available while we’re working on realizing ARM64’s benefits to production."

Wilco