Look at the figures, folks

By: Anne O. Nymous (not.delete@this.real.address), October 15, 2018 5:31 am
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James (no.delete@this.thanks.invalid) on October 15, 2018 5:16 am wrote:
> David Kanter (dkanter.delete@this.realworldtech.com) on October 13, 2018 6:08 am wrote:
>
> > Do you have any reason to believe that Intel would ever give away server parts?
>
> Well, yes. They were fined billions for effectively giving parts away.
>
>
First, Intel gave wholly or partially hidden rebates to computer manufacturers on condition
> that they bought all, or almost all, their x86 CPUs from Intel. Intel also made direct payments
> to a major retailer on condition it stock only computers with Intel x86 CPUs.
>
-- The European Commission
>
> They paid to get Atom chips into tablets and phones:
>
Intel is, in essence, paying tablet makers to adopt its Bay Trail Atom chips because it needs to catch up.
>
-- CNET.
>
>
"It is not unusual for us to put programs in place to incentivize customers
> and accelerate the market for our products, and we've been clear about our desire
> to grow market share in tablets," Intel said in a statement to CNET.
>
-- ibid.
>
>
>
> (And even if these aren't literally giving them away, no-one's
> said Cloudflare's is actually getting them for zero dollars.)
>
> > I don't, it makes no
> > sense when they are capacity constrained.
>
> I suspect Intel doesn't care that much about losing i3 or lower sales to AMD. They can try to regain that
> market when they get 10nm capacity working; it's low-margin, AMD are well-established in the market, and getting
> AMD/Global Foundries/TSMC to cover the low-end market during a capacity crunch (by putting their own prices
> up a bit!) is probably cheaper than buying the fabs to ensure they won't have capacity crunches.
>
> They do care very much about their high-margin server business, and keeping competitors out.

But that high-margin server business ceases to exist once intel gives these to high-volume customers, no?
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              Why can't two "computers" be on one board?anon2018/10/12 04:04 AM
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      Look at the figures, folksAM2018/10/11 11:02 AM
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                    Some power efficiency figuresMaynard Handley2018/10/12 03:37 PM
                      Some power efficiency figuresanon2018/10/12 04:04 PM
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                          Some power efficiency figuresanon2018/10/13 02:13 AM
                          Some power efficiency figuresanon2018/10/13 05:06 AM
                      Some power efficiency figuresSimon Farnsworth2018/10/13 04:52 AM
                        Some power efficiency figuresanon2018/10/13 05:17 AM
                Reread what you saidAM2018/10/14 09:14 AM
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      Look at the figures, folksAM2018/10/14 08:50 AM
        Look at the figures, folksDavid Kanter2018/10/14 09:25 PM
          Look at the figures, folksMichael S2018/10/15 02:16 AM
            What?!AM2018/10/16 10:12 AM
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          Look at the figures, folksAM2018/10/16 10:07 AM
        Look at the figures, folksMichael S2018/10/15 02:25 AM
        What figures?someone2018/10/15 05:35 AM
          What figures?AM2018/10/16 10:03 AM
            What figures?someone2018/10/17 08:19 AM
              What figures?wumpus2018/10/18 08:46 AM
      Look at the figures, folksJames2018/10/15 05:16 AM
        Look at the figures, folksAnne O. Nymous2018/10/15 05:31 AM
          Look at the figures, folksanonymou52018/10/15 05:47 AM
            Look at the figures, folksAnne O. Nymous2018/10/15 05:55 AM
        Watch the financial reportsAnon2018/10/15 06:00 AM
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