AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoC

By: Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org), November 8, 2018 8:22 am
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Beastian (no.email.delete@this.aol.com) on November 8, 2018 7:10 am wrote:
> none (none.delete@this.none.com) on November 7, 2018 8:24 am wrote:
> > dmcq (dmcq.delete@this.fano.co.uk) on November 7, 2018 7:46 am wrote:
> > > Andrei (andrei.delete@this.anandtech.com) on November 7, 2018 3:47 am wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > I will have Cortex A76 numbers from the Kirin 980 very soon, they actually more or less are similar
> > > > to my projections at 3GHz: https://images.anandtech.com/doci/12785/proj2.png only that the actual
> > > > platform hit those figures at 2.6GHz. It's a big jump for Arm but yes Apple still had a big lead.
> > >
> > > Thanks for all the work. If the A76 is like that it may
> > > still be way behind Apple but it ain't at all shabby.
> >
> > Agree, great work, Andrei :-)
> >
> > Let's start betting: I bet, given Geekbench scores, that Cortex-A76 is at about Apple
> > A10 level. That'd mean 2 years behind.
>
> Looks like the die space used for a pair of A76's is about
> the same as a single Vortex core (cache excluded):
>
> https://www.anandtech.com/show/13564/chiprebel-releases-kirin-980-die-shot-cortex-a76s-mali-g76-in-view
>
> https://www.anandtech.com/show/13393/techinsights-publishes-apple-a12-die-shot-our-take
>
> It's also interesting that the synthesis resulted in non-identical big and mid a76
> blocks in Hi-Silicon's implementation as well as more asymmetry in the A53 blocks.
>
> Apple's big core design is likely to service future high end laptops of theirs (depending on
> their plans) where as the A76 seems like it's dedicated to traditionally smaller form factors
> mobile designs. ARM still has a bit of die space to play with for their future cores:

ARM has ALWAYS prioritized size over performance, even at the high end. Personally I find their adherence to this (even after so many years of Apple competition) very strange, but I guess they know their customers better than I do.
I will be interesting to see if anything about this changes now that ARM LLC (as opposed to partners) has started talking about dedicated server (or at least "infrastructure") cores.

I do look forward to seeing reliable numbers for the A76 and its frequency. Given that they're narrower than the A10, they're working hard to use what they have well (go brainiacs!) but I'm guessing they're also picking up something from higher frequency (but is that frequency 2.6GHz or 3.0GHz?). The other question, of course, is how well they do on SPEC. It would be unrealistic to expect their uncore to be as ridiculously performant as the A12, but is that part of the SoC at A10 levels?
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