AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoC

By: Beastian (no.email.delete@this.aol.com), November 8, 2018 8:36 am
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Beastian (no.email.delete@this.aol.com) on November 8, 2018 7:32 am wrote:
> Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on November 8, 2018 7:22 am wrote:
> > Beastian (no.email.delete@this.aol.com) on November 8, 2018 7:10 am wrote:
> > > none (none.delete@this.none.com) on November 7, 2018 8:24 am wrote:
> > > > dmcq (dmcq.delete@this.fano.co.uk) on November 7, 2018 7:46 am wrote:
> > > > > Andrei (andrei.delete@this.anandtech.com) on November 7, 2018 3:47 am wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > > > > I will have Cortex A76 numbers from the Kirin 980 very soon, they actually more or less are similar
> > > > > > to my projections at 3GHz: https://images.anandtech.com/doci/12785/proj2.png only that the actual
> > > > > > platform hit those figures at 2.6GHz. It's a big jump for Arm but yes Apple still had a big lead.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for all the work. If the A76 is like that it may
> > > > > still be way behind Apple but it ain't at all shabby.
> > > >
> > > > Agree, great work, Andrei :-)
> > > >
> > > > Let's start betting: I bet, given Geekbench scores, that Cortex-A76 is at about Apple
> > > > A10 level. That'd mean 2 years behind.
> > >
> > > Looks like the die space used for a pair of A76's is about
> > > the same as a single Vortex core (cache excluded):
> > >
> > > https://www.anandtech.com/show/13564/chiprebel-releases-kirin-980-die-shot-cortex-a76s-mali-g76-in-view
> > >
> > > https://www.anandtech.com/show/13393/techinsights-publishes-apple-a12-die-shot-our-take
> > >
> > > It's also interesting that the synthesis resulted in non-identical big and mid a76
> > > blocks in Hi-Silicon's implementation as well as more asymmetry in the A53 blocks.
> > >
> > > Apple's big core design is likely to service future high end laptops of theirs (depending on
> > > their plans) where as the A76 seems like it's dedicated to traditionally smaller form factors
> > > mobile designs. ARM still has a bit of die space to play with for their future cores:
> >
> > ARM has ALWAYS prioritized size over performance, even at the high end. Personally
> > I find their adherence to this (even after so many years of Apple competition)
> > very strange, but I guess they know their customers better than I do.
> > I will be interesting to see if anything about this changes now that ARM LLC (as opposed to
> > partners) has started talking about dedicated server (or at least "infrastructure") cores.
> >
> > I do look forward to seeing reliable numbers for the A76 and its frequency. Given that they're narrower
> > than the A10, they're working hard to use what they have well (go brainiacs!) but I'm guessing they're
> > also picking up something from higher frequency (but is that frequency 2.6GHz or 3.0GHz?). The other
> > question, of course, is how well they do on SPEC. It would be unrealistic to expect their uncore to
> > be as ridiculously performant as the A12, but is that part of the SoC at A10 levels?
> >
>
> It seems like they had plans for a further tier above the
> A7x and A5x lines in their plans for an the Ares core:
>
> https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/arm-cpu-roadmap-revealed-ares-prometheus-ananke-and-mercury-in-development/
>
> According to Andrei, A73 is Artemis, and my impression is that the A75 is the Prometheus
> design, but I recall some statements that this is not entirely accurate. That may
> make the A76 Ares, but it does look like Ares is off the roadmap though:
>
> https://www.anandtech.com/show/13475/arm-announces-neoverse-infrastructure-ip-branding-future-roadmap

Err I mean to say "Prometheus is off the roadmap."
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