AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoC

By: Jukka Larja (roskakori2006.delete@this.gmail.com), November 10, 2018 12:54 pm
Room: Moderated Discussions
Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on November 10, 2018 8:25 am wrote:
> Jukka Larja (roskakori2006.delete@this.gmail.com) on November 10, 2018 7:41 am wrote:
> > Maynard Handley (name99.delete@this.name99.org) on November 10, 2018 6:46 am wrote:
> >
> > > Are those 15 year writing term papers on their phones? Will they be
> > > doing their calculus assignments on their phones in five years?
> > > The chattering classes only see 15 year olds using Facebook (or Grinder, or Ashley Madison,
> > > or whatever it is that 15 year olds use) in public and extrapolate from that in a way that
> > > makes zero sense. They don't see those kids writing term papers, because that is not something
> > > people do in public. Neither do they see that those kids in five years will be living 20
> > > year old lives with 20 year old concerns, and then likewise five years later.
> > > That was the point of my chainsaw analogy.
> >
> > But vast majority of people don't write term papers (and don't use chainsaws). Sure, many people write
> > term papers (or equivalent things) at some point in their life, but that's really short time.
> >
> > Personally, I don't understand how people can write even a single email on a phone or tablet, and feel
> > that web browsing on small screen without a keyboard is way too inefficient to make sense (except when
> > alternative doesn't exist). But that's just me, and like you always like to point out to me, what I feel
> > is meaningless in the big picture. Most of my friends are happy to do majority of browsing and (textual)
> > communication on smart phones. They simply don't need to write "term papers" all that often.
> >
>
> I don't know what you're arguing against (or think I am arguing for).

I believe you were arguing for people wanting to buy more Macs on current prices ($1400 was mentioned by someone else. I didn't check, but presumed that's about right). I don't believe most people are willing to pay that much, as PC will be an unimportant and seldomly used tool for them, which is mostly kept away and only taken out for unfortunate things that are just too bothersome to do on a tablet. That's basically what I see people doing now: willingness to pay 1000 € for a phone, but being very annoyed to pay 399 € euros for a laptop when 349 € model is available. And that's perfectly reasonable, if you compare the amount of use each device will get.

Of course, even larger part of people won't pay 1000 € for a phone, nor for a laptop.

> My assertion is that Macs will be used ENOUGH (just like aWatches will be used ENOUGH) to justify
> people buying them and Apple continuing to improve them. THAT is the ONLY point I am making.
> It may seem obvious and uncontroversial, but it flies in the face of the claim that ALL computing
> for almost ALL people will move EXCLUSIVELY to the phone (or perhaps phone+tablet).

I really can't say what will be enough, but I really hope you are right, because then there is a good change that high-quality Windows laptops (and desktops) will also be available in consumer market and won't cost arm and leg. My point is mostly that I don't find your argument convincing. I don't have any statistics, inside knowledge or anything like that to back me up, but neither do you. If PC market keeps getting smaller, I don't see Apple getting larger absolute numbers just by being better than everyone else.

-JLarja
< Previous Post in ThreadNext Post in Thread >
TopicPosted ByDate
AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCGian-Carlo Pascutto2018/11/07 01:29 AM
  AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCFoo_2018/11/07 03:11 AM
    AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCAndrei2018/11/07 04:47 AM
      AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCGian-Carlo Pascutto2018/11/07 06:18 AM
        AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCAndrei2018/11/07 07:02 AM
      AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCMaynard Handley2018/11/07 08:16 AM
        AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCDoug S2018/11/07 01:34 PM
          AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCMaynard Handley2018/11/07 02:05 PM
        AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCDavid Hess2018/11/09 07:43 AM
          AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCMaynard Handley2018/11/09 09:02 AM
            AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCDavid Hess2018/11/09 03:31 PM
      AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCdmcq2018/11/07 08:46 AM
        AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCnone2018/11/07 09:24 AM
          AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCWilco2018/11/07 02:47 PM
            AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCdmcq2018/11/07 03:02 PM
              AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCWilco2018/11/07 04:56 PM
                AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCAndrei2018/11/08 01:20 AM
              AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCMaynard Handley2018/11/07 05:20 PM
              AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCnone2018/11/07 10:12 PM
                AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCnone2018/11/07 10:15 PM
          AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCBeastian2018/11/08 08:10 AM
            AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCMaynard Handley2018/11/08 08:22 AM
              AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCBeastian2018/11/08 08:32 AM
                AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCBeastian2018/11/08 08:36 AM
                  AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCAndrei2018/11/09 02:06 AM
                    AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCpassing rando2018/11/09 10:10 AM
              AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCGian-Carlo Pascutto2018/11/08 08:58 AM
                AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCMaynard Handley2018/11/08 11:03 AM
                  AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCGian-Carlo Pascutto2018/11/08 12:29 PM
                    AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCMaynard Handley2018/11/08 03:39 PM
                      AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCWilco2018/11/08 04:12 PM
            AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCDoug S2018/11/08 10:25 AM
              AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCMaynard Handley2018/11/08 11:18 AM
                AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCDoug S2018/11/08 03:00 PM
                  AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCMaynard Handley2018/11/08 03:48 PM
                    AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCDoug S2018/11/09 12:15 PM
                      AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCMaynard Handley2018/11/09 08:23 PM
                        AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCDoug S2018/11/10 03:43 AM
                          AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCMaynard Handley2018/11/10 07:46 AM
                            AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCJukka Larja2018/11/10 08:41 AM
                              AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCMaynard Handley2018/11/10 09:25 AM
                                AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCJukka Larja2018/11/10 12:54 PM
                                  AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCMaynard Handley2018/11/10 02:17 PM
                                    AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCJukka Larja2018/11/11 12:24 AM
                          AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCBrett2018/11/10 01:24 PM
                        AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCJukka Larja2018/11/10 04:12 AM
                          AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCdmcq2018/11/10 06:21 AM
                          AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCMichael S2018/11/10 05:33 PM
                            AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCAnon2018/11/10 08:52 PM
                              AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCJukka Larja2018/11/10 11:56 PM
                  AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCDavid Hess2018/11/09 09:08 AM
              AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCBeastian2018/11/08 06:53 PM
                AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCMaynard Handley2018/11/09 05:12 AM
                  AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCdmcq2018/11/09 05:26 AM
                  AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCDoug S2018/11/09 12:06 PM
                AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCdmcq2018/11/09 05:15 AM
              AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCFoo_2018/11/09 01:16 PM
                AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCDoug S2018/11/09 01:36 PM
      AnandTech SPEC2006 scores for ARM SoCDavid Hess2018/11/09 06:27 AM
Reply to this Topic
Name:
Email:
Topic:
Body: No Text
How do you spell green?